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GOP Debate Night
Topic Started: Nov 11 2015, 08:08 AM (469 Views)
Jim Miller
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Sea Dog
Nov 12 2015, 02:00 AM
Oh, I am not worried.

I do think however, that it is strange that certain members
are given free reign with the insults
while other are threatend with time outs or banishment!
Sea, and the other foreign America haters, every bit of your hate-filled tripe is an insult to American citizens and to our entire country. You have been given free reign to post your filthy hate and now you whine when you get it back. It never occurs to you haters that coming to our country, either physically or through these forums and trying to trash our country is, and should not be, acceptable to decent people. Your mindless hate-filled drivel is nothing more than meddling into your neighbor's business. That behavior obviously is typical for you haters. So, waaaaa. If you can't take it I can give you the address of the America haters board. There are a few members there that share your disdain for this country.
Edited by Jim Miller, Nov 12 2015, 04:53 AM.
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Pat
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Nov 12 2015, 04:52 AM
Trump won the debate. Period. Why? As he stood silently, Americans knew that they were being treated to basically a big stinky pile of Madison Ave, Bullsh*t by most o his opponents. The others for the most part belonged to the same forces that helped destroy our country, the same country Trump has pledged to make great again. If I were to pick 2nd and 3rd it would be Cruz followed by Paul. In the end though Americans are sick and tired of phony promises followed by the same old same old. Look at Sen. Rubio, $2 trillion more in unfunded spending. Kasich booed because he would again bail out banks and make even more firm the notion of to big to fail. Trump is the only one on the stage that has proven the ability to do great things the rest are products of the system. Carson--a nice man who would get eaten alive by Washington. Carly said some good things but again, has never done anything great. If I were to choose one of the insiders it would be Cruz or Paul.

Obama's legacy-- an anemic 1.2% economic growth average over seven years, 40% of working age people without a job and not working, the jobs created low wage starvation jobs and his Obamacare ushered in a lower workweek for the poor workers, a $2,700 a year lessening of the real wages of the middle class. A weakened standing on the world stage and an all out attack against traditional energy sources, yet these same sources have provided 40% of the economic growth during his time in office.

Hillary is a dishonest member of the crony capitalism class that is at fault with most of our problems. She will tell any lie and use any form of deception to maintain the status-quo. It's time for real change in Washington.
Bumped before my post gets buried by whiny BS again.
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I disagree Trump won Pat. He was okay but while the others were talking specifics he was quiet. Kasich was the big loser imo. Bush did okay but he is just not presidential material. Carly made some very good points but she looks so damn mean all the time, that will not sell.Rubio was outstanding. Cruz was his usual stellar self. Paul I don't know, I am biased against him for his isolationism. I could support anyone of them.
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If I don't agree with you does that mean that I am no longer an American? You claim to be pro personal choice so why are you supporting the party that plans to control your bedroom (birth control and abortion), who you love (defense of marriage act), and what you consume (outlaw devil weed)?
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Nov 12 2015, 04:52 AM
Trump won the debate. Period. Why? As he stood silently, Americans knew that they were being treated to basically a big stinky pile of Madison Ave, Bullsh*t by most o his opponents. The others for the most part belonged to the same forces that helped destroy our country, the same country Trump has pledged to make great again. If I were to pick 2nd and 3rd it would be Cruz followed by Paul. In the end though Americans are sick and tired of phony promises followed by the same old same old. Look at Sen. Rubio, $2 trillion more in unfunded spending. Kasich booed because he would again bail out banks and make even more firm the notion of to big to fail. Trump is the only one on the stage that has proven the ability to do great things the rest are products of the system. Carson--a nice man who would get eaten alive by Washington. Carly said some good things but again, has never done anything great. If I were to choose one of the insiders it would be Cruz or Paul.

Obama's legacy-- an anemic 1.2% economic growth average over seven years, 40% of working age people without a job and not working, the jobs created low wage starvation jobs and his Obamacare ushered in a lower workweek for the poor workers, a $2,700 a year lessening of the real wages of the middle class. A weakened standing on the world stage and an all out attack against traditional energy sources, yet these same sources have provided 40% of the economic growth during his time in office.

Hillary is a dishonest member of the crony capitalism class that is at fault with most of our problems. She will tell any lie and use any form of deception to maintain the status-quo. It's time for real change in Washington.
What I don't understand is the conservative propensity to lie, the eternal urge to guild the lily. You can say that the economy is sluggish, at least somewhat but that is not good enough. You must make up stuff to make it seem worse

Below is a fairly typical growth data. All sources are not the same, some higher, some lower. NOWHERE can I find a legitimate source that says growth averaged 1.2%. NOWHERE! Even the World Bank estimate, the lowest I found is double that figure.

The figures below, if you delete delete 2009 where Obama had no control, the figures come out to about what Bush was saying is a good rate of growth...............4%.

Mar 31, 2015 3.91%
Dec 31, 2014 3.66%
Dec 31, 2013 4.57%
Dec 31, 2012 3.47%
Dec 31, 2011 3.64%
Dec 31, 2010 4.56%
Dec 31, 2009 0.11%
Dec 31, 2008 -0.92%

http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year

This is one of the lower ones and it includes the miserable left over Bush year of 2009

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG




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Who are you talking to Ken?
I don't remember anyone saying you are not an American.
You libs build more strawmen!
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Nov 12 2015, 05:06 AM
Pat
Nov 12 2015, 04:52 AM
Trump won the debate. Period. Why? As he stood silently, Americans knew that they were being treated to basically a big stinky pile of Madison Ave, Bullsh*t by most o his opponents. The others for the most part belonged to the same forces that helped destroy our country, the same country Trump has pledged to make great again. If I were to pick 2nd and 3rd it would be Cruz followed by Paul. In the end though Americans are sick and tired of phony promises followed by the same old same old. Look at Sen. Rubio, $2 trillion more in unfunded spending. Kasich booed because he would again bail out banks and make even more firm the notion of to big to fail. Trump is the only one on the stage that has proven the ability to do great things the rest are products of the system. Carson--a nice man who would get eaten alive by Washington. Carly said some good things but again, has never done anything great. If I were to choose one of the insiders it would be Cruz or Paul.

Obama's legacy-- an anemic 1.2% economic growth average over seven years, 40% of working age people without a job and not working, the jobs created low wage starvation jobs and his Obamacare ushered in a lower workweek for the poor workers, a $2,700 a year lessening of the real wages of the middle class. A weakened standing on the world stage and an all out attack against traditional energy sources, yet these same sources have provided 40% of the economic growth during his time in office.

Hillary is a dishonest member of the crony capitalism class that is at fault with most of our problems. She will tell any lie and use any form of deception to maintain the status-quo. It's time for real change in Washington.
Bumped before my post gets buried by whiny BS again.

I can't go with Paul. As you know I am not a isolationist. I look at history and history says that is a bad policy for the US.

Trump I can go with but I would rather have a ticket which includes Crews, Rubio, or Carly in any combination.

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Nov 12 2015, 06:05 AM
Pat
Nov 12 2015, 04:52 AM
Trump won the debate. Period. Why? As he stood silently, Americans knew that they were being treated to basically a big stinky pile of Madison Ave, Bullsh*t by most o his opponents. The others for the most part belonged to the same forces that helped destroy our country, the same country Trump has pledged to make great again. If I were to pick 2nd and 3rd it would be Cruz followed by Paul. In the end though Americans are sick and tired of phony promises followed by the same old same old. Look at Sen. Rubio, $2 trillion more in unfunded spending. Kasich booed because he would again bail out banks and make even more firm the notion of to big to fail. Trump is the only one on the stage that has proven the ability to do great things the rest are products of the system. Carson--a nice man who would get eaten alive by Washington. Carly said some good things but again, has never done anything great. If I were to choose one of the insiders it would be Cruz or Paul.

Obama's legacy-- an anemic 1.2% economic growth average over seven years, 40% of working age people without a job and not working, the jobs created low wage starvation jobs and his Obamacare ushered in a lower workweek for the poor workers, a $2,700 a year lessening of the real wages of the middle class. A weakened standing on the world stage and an all out attack against traditional energy sources, yet these same sources have provided 40% of the economic growth during his time in office.

Hillary is a dishonest member of the crony capitalism class that is at fault with most of our problems. She will tell any lie and use any form of deception to maintain the status-quo. It's time for real change in Washington.
What I don't understand is the conservative propensity to lie, the eternal urge to guild the lily. You can say that the economy is sluggish, at least somewhat but that is not good enough. You must make up stuff to make it seem worse

Below is a fairly typical growth data. All sources are not the same, some higher, some lower. NOWHERE can I find a legitimate source that says growth averaged 1.2%. NOWHERE! Even the World Bank estimate, the lowest I found is double that figure.

The figures below, if you delete delete 2009 where Obama had no control, the figures come out to about what Bush was saying is a good rate of growth...............4%.

Mar 31, 20153.91%
Dec 31, 20143.66%
Dec 31, 20134.57%
Dec 31, 20123.47%
Dec 31, 20113.64%
Dec 31, 20104.56%
Dec 31, 20090.11%
Dec 31, 2008-0.92%

http://www.multpl.com/us-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-year

This is one of the lower ones and it includes the miserable left over Bush year of 2009

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.KD.ZG




I gave you the actual figures, I'm not interested in your phony links or bias.
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Jim Miller
Nov 12 2015, 04:52 AM
Sea Dog
Nov 12 2015, 02:00 AM
Oh, I am not worried.

I do think however, that it is strange that certain members
are given free reign with the insults
while other are threatend with time outs or banishment!
Sea, and the other foreign America haters, every bit of your hate-filled tripe is an insult to American citizens and to our entire country. You have been given free reign to post your filthy hate and now you whine when you get it back. It never occurs to you haters that coming to our country, either physically or through these forums and trying to trash our country is, and should not be, acceptable to decent people. Your mindless hate-filled drivel is nothing more than meddling into your neighbor's business. That behavior obviously is typical for you haters. So, waaaaa. If you can't take it I can give you the address of the America haters board. There are a few members there that share your disdain for this country.
Your post, shows Jim,
that you are even more full of crap than usual!

The only "hate" shown is for right wingers such as yourself
and your pals who care only for themselves,
with nary a care for those who have not had your white bread,
cushy shot at life!
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Thanks for proving my point, Sea.
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