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Poll: 13% Of Syrian Refugees Support IS
Topic Started: Nov 6 2015, 03:15 AM (878 Views)
wanderingjays
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colo_crawdad
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I am talking about IS .not ISIS. Look back at the title of this thread. I even lilnked a rational definition of IS.
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IS is ISIS. Geeze.
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Berton
Nov 7 2015, 09:04 AM
colo_crawdad
Nov 7 2015, 08:49 AM
Berton
Nov 7 2015, 08:34 AM
colo_crawdad
Nov 7 2015, 06:16 AM
No diversion. Just an attempt to show how ridiculous the logic is that equates the Islamic State with terrorists.

So you think that people who behead people they disagree with and burn them alive are not terrorists? I find that a rather strange stance, even for you.

I do not remember posting anything even resembling that. Oh, I know, Berton cannot answer logically so he chooses to be dishonest about what others believe in order to insult them for what they did not say.

Then you and I are talking about different things. I am talking about the Islamic State (ISIS). What/who are you talking about?


Colo_crawdad, I apologize for the interfering posts of a member of the hate board who seems intent on disrupting our conversation. Please continue.

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colo_crawdad
Nov 7 2015, 09:11 AM
I am talking about IS .not ISIS. Look back at the title of this thread. I even lilnked a rational definition of IS.

They are one in the same.

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Islamic State in Iraq and Syria - ISIS
IS is just shortening it.
Unless Colo is playing a Clinton game of the definition of "is".
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Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"ISIL", "ISIS", "Daesh", and "Islamic State group" redirect here. For other uses, see ISIL (disambiguation), ISIS (disambiguation), Daish (disambiguation), and Islamic state (disambiguation).
Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant

الدولة الإسلامية في العراق والشام
ad-Dawlah al-Islāmiyah fī 'l-ʿIrāq wa-sh-Shām
Participant in the Syrian Civil War, Iraq War (2003–2011), Iraqi insurgency, Iraq War (2014–present), Second Libyan Civil War, Boko Haram insurgency, War in North-West Pakistan, War in Afghanistan, Yemeni Civil War, and other conflicts
Primary target of Operation Inherent Resolve and of the military intervention against ISIL: in Syria, Iraq, Libya, and Nigeria.
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1999–Present

Joined al-Qaeda: October 2004
Declaration of an Islamic state in Iraq: 13 October 2006
Claim of territory in the Levant: 8 April 2013
Separated from al-Qaeda:[1][2] 3 February 2014,[3]
Declaration of caliphate: 29 June 2014
Claim of territory in: Libya, Egypt, Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen: 13 November 2014
Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of India: 29 January 2015[4]
Nigeria: 12 March 2015[5][6]
North Caucasus: 23 June 2015[7]

Ideology

Salafism[8][9][10]
Salafi jihadism[10][11]
Wahhabism[11][12]

Leaders

Leader: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi,[13]
Deputy leader: Abu Ala al-Afri still unconfirmed †,[14][15]
Deputy leader in Syria: Abu Ali al-Anbari,[16]
Deputy leader in Iraq: Abu Muslim al-Turkmani †,[16][17]
Military chief: Abu Suleiman al-Naser,[18][19]
Head of the Shura Council: Abu Arkan al-Ameri,[20]
Chief spokesperson: Abu Mohammad al-Adnani,[18][21][22]
Chief of Syrian military operations: Abu Omar al-Shishani[18][23]

Headquarters Ar-Raqqah, Syria
(de facto capital)
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Military situation as of 23 October 2015, in the Iraqi, Syrian, and Lebanese conflicts.
Controlled by the Iraqi government
Controlled by the Syrian government
Controlled by the Lebanese government
Controlled by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Controlled by Iraqi Kurdistan forces
Controlled by Syrian Kurdistan forces
Controlled by Syrian opposition forces
Controlled by al-Nusra Front
Controlled by Hezbollah
Note: Iraq and Syria contain large desert areas with limited populations. These areas are mapped as under the control of forces holding roads and towns within them.
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Strength Inside Syria and Iraq
200,000[24] (Kurdish claim)
100,000[25] (Jihadist claim)
20,000–31,000[26] (CIA estimate)
Outside Syria and Iraq
32,600–57,900 (See Military of ISIL for more detailed estimates.)
Estimated total
52,600–257,900
Originated as Jamāʻat al-Tawḥīd wa-al-Jihād (1999)[27]

The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL; Arabic: الدولة الإسلامية في العراق والشام‎), also known as the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS, /ˈaɪsɨs/) or the Islamic State of Iraq and ash-Sham,[28] Islamic State (IS),[29] or Daesh (داعش, Arabic pronunciation: [ˈdaːʕiʃ]),[30] is a Wahhabi/Salafi jihadist extremist militant group and self-proclaimed Islamic state and caliphate, which is led by and mainly composed of Sunni Arabs from Iraq and Syria.[31] As of March 2015, it has control over territory occupied by ten million people[32] in Iraq and Syria, and has nominal control over small areas of Libya, Nigeria and Afghanistan.[33][34] The group also operates or has affiliates in other parts of the world, including North Africa and South Asia.[35][36]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
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From a left wing source:

In April 2013, Baghdadi announced the merger of his forces in Iraq and Syria and the creation of "Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant" (Isis).

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29052144
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A reminder of what COLO said:
"No diversion. Just an attempt to show how ridiculous the logic is that equates the Islamic State with terrorists."
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Nov 7 2015, 06:03 AM
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The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

Given the leap in logic being used by some here, US Christians who believe in the coming apocalypse are terrorists. I do not buy that logic.
And you were a school teacher. The liberal brain is something else...

ISIL, ISIS, IS are all the same abbreviation.

You are fubar Colo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq
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