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WaPo Belatedly Exonerates Cops: Vast Majority Of Police Shootings 'Justified'
Topic Started: Nov 5 2015, 07:01 AM (756 Views)
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Nov 7 2015, 06:34 AM
What was the result of the investigation? Just because you personally believe that the officer should have done something different that doesn't mean that his decision was illegal.

Unlike the courts or public opinion an officer doesn't have months to decide what to do when he is faced with an immediate threat. (The reasonable person doctrine will be used to judge his belief that he, or the public, were in danger)
So what do I believe, the cop or my lying damn eyes?
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Even when cops are wearing body cams there is no guarantee of accountability. That makes us all feel so much more trusting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/police-body-camera-policy_563b8d81e4b0b24aee4938ab
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You should believe the results of the criminal investigation and the DA's decision after it is reviewed. Again because you believe that it was illegal doesn't make it so.

My suggestion is that you should recruit people for your department who are willing to lay down their own lives rather than use deadly force.
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Nov 8 2015, 05:35 AM
You should believe the results of the criminal investigation and the DA's decision after it is reviewed. Again because you believe that it was illegal doesn't make it so.

My suggestion is that you should recruit people for your department who are willing to lay down their own lives rather than use deadly force.
I believe the DAs are in league with the cops and investigations of either should be by a neutral party. Both have shown a total inability to police themselves.
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What is your suggestion to fix this problem? My experience is that DA's are harder on Police criminals that non police criminals.

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Nov 8 2015, 06:19 AM
What is your suggestion to fix this problem? My experience is that DA's are harder on Police criminals that non police criminals.

Don't read much do you.
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Actually I read (2) newspapers a day, The USA Today for the national and International news and the Peninsula Daily news for what is happening locally. On the Sunday I read the Sunday edition of NY Times.

I am still waiting for actual examples, not your personal opinion, of the police getting away with murder. Keep in mind

Are you aware (if you aren't than perhaps you need to read more) that, unlike you and other citizens, if the DA declines to prosecute or even if the county jury votes not guilty the Feds can still prosecute the officers under the KKK act? An example is what happened to the LAPD officers involved in the Rodney King arrest. A LA County Superior court jury found them not guilty but the federal jury found them guilty of federal rights violations.

Exactly what more do you want?
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Edited by her-she, Nov 12 2015, 02:45 AM.
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USA Today and NY Times are not very good for facts, I'll side with you on that Flyway.
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Nov 8 2015, 08:48 AM
Actually I read (2) newspapers a day, The USA Today for the national and International news and the Peninsula Daily news for what is happening locally. On the Sunday I read the Sunday edition of NY Times.

I am still waiting for actual examples, not your personal opinion, of the police getting away with murder. Keep in mind

Are you aware (if you aren't than perhaps you need to read more) that, unlike you and other citizens, if the DA declines to prosecute or even if the county jury votes not guilty the Feds can still prosecute the officers under the KKK act? An example is what happened to the LAPD officers involved in the Rodney King arrest. A LA County Superior court jury found them not guilty but the federal jury found them guilty of federal rights violations.

Exactly what more do you want?
At this point what I want is made necessary by what the cops won't do. Tell the truth. Time after time since the advent of the cell video they have been caught red handed lying about what happened only to be contradicted when the video surfaces.

What I want are no more Tamir Rice cases or eric garner cases or folks getting shot in the back as the lay on their bellies. These cases show, if not outright murder, at least a disdain for the injuries their actions, needless actions, were causing.

You don't want to be a decent cop the get the hell out. All this bull about being in constant danger is just that. They rank somewhere near 20 in the most dangerous jobs list.

Someone asked why there were crime spikes in NY and Baltimore. Perhaps it was because of the police "slowdown" where the unions were refusing to do their jobs until they were allowed to kill whoever they wanted in whatever way they wanted. These "slowdowns" are often used as bargaining chips by the unions.

I am granting that these cops are still a small minority of the force but too often they are running the show. You know it and I know it. Why else the ever growing opposition to body cams and even when the cams are in place the recording are more often "secret" than not?

Lawsuits, which are difficult to bring and win are costing us tens of millions of bucks a year Often against repetitive offenders. Juries seem not so hard to convince of wrongdoing.

After who are we to believe the lying cop or our lying eyes.

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