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| Is misinformation about the climate criminally negligent? | |
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| colo_crawdad | Apr 1 2014, 10:29 PM Post #11 |
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Question. What, specifically, is/was/ the point of the OP? |
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| Berton | Apr 1 2014, 10:29 PM Post #12 |
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Telcoman, you constantly read and post from political blogs about climate change. Unlike you I have the training and experience to know how to question the findings of alarmists which is why I am skeptical about many of their predictions which are based on models, not measured data.
Edited by Berton, Apr 1 2014, 10:30 PM.
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| colo_crawdad | Apr 1 2014, 10:42 PM Post #13 |
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I do not want to make a snide remark about Berton leaving prior to answering m question. I would really appreciate an answer, either from him or from someone who thinks they understand the point of the OP. |
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| Berton | Apr 1 2014, 10:49 PM Post #14 |
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More: US Philosophy Professor: Jail 'Denialist' Climate Scientists for Criminal Negligence Scientists who don't believe in catastrophic man-made global warming should be put in prison, a US philosophy professor argues on a website funded by the UK government. Lawrence Torcello - assistant professor of philosophy at Rochester Institute of Technology, NY, writes in an essay at The Conversation that climate scientists who fail to communicate the correct message about "global warming" should face trial for "criminal negligence". (H/T Bishop Hill) The Conversation - no relation of Breitbart's blogging chatroom - is a website promoting articles by academics and funded by nineteen of Britain's leading universities, as well as several government agencies, including the Higher Education Funding Council For England (HEFCE) and the Higher Education Funding Council For Wales (HEFCW) and Research Council UK. Its motto is "Academic rigour, journalistic flair" - both qualities which are mysteriously absent from Torcello's essay, titled "Is Misinformation About The Climate Criminally Negligent?"...... LINK |
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| colo_crawdad | Apr 1 2014, 11:18 PM Post #15 |
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What a horribly misleading headline and article. Thank goodness the source linked the actual essay. What the author had to say about criminal negligence was:
The Essay Not a word in the essay about jailing scientists. Not a word about prosecuting scientists. Only a proposal to hold those who fund misleading campaigns of deniers should be considered criminally negligent. Edited by colo_crawdad, Apr 1 2014, 11:22 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 1 2014, 11:29 PM Post #16 |
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The argument is based on a premise. Suppose scientists who knew an eruption of Mt St Helens was about to erupt, decided not to warn residents nearby or assure them there was no problem. That would have been criminal negligence. Pretty clear. However it is murkier when the time frame is extended. For example we know the Yellowstone Caldera will erupt, probably in the next 10 thousand years, but maybe next year. Are the powers to be neligent for not evacuating places like Jackson Hole? That is a lot more nebulous. On that basis, i do not think the argument holds water. It is best to fight people like this with solid scientific facts and evidence |
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| Thumper | Apr 1 2014, 11:35 PM Post #17 |
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It is a troll! And you schmucks are falling for it. I will discuss rational stuff with Berton, but most things I stay away from. Why bother? |
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| Berton | Apr 1 2014, 11:51 PM Post #18 |
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"Of course, inappropriate metaphors and calls for climate skeptics to be punished are not new. A musicologist in Austria called for the death penalty for climate deniers, retracting it after people were upset, according to American Thinker. That article about the violent rhetoric used against climate skeptics also mentioned statements made by Climate Progress' Joe Romm and NASA's James Hansen." LINK Edited by Berton, Apr 1 2014, 11:52 PM.
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| Deleted User | Apr 2 2014, 12:09 AM Post #19 |
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There are always radicals, you should know, your political view point is rife with them. I try to ignore them all,right or left |
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| Thumper | Apr 2 2014, 12:11 AM Post #20 |
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A Musicologist in Bavaria!!!! Now this is someone I would strand up and take notice over. How about a Proctologist in Summer Shade Kentucky? |
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