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States, D.C. are told to clean up voter rolls or be sued; Judicial Watch counters Obama
Topic Started: Mar 26 2014, 11:07 AM (404 Views)
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Why the idiotic remark Thumper?
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Mar 27 2014, 07:59 AM
The fact is that Colo and his ilk don't care if the Dems cheat.
You mean like Bush in Florida? He had 8 years to clean up the system and establish honest consistent voting practices nationwide. Now I wonder why he did not do that? I think the answer is very obvious. Same with Obama who has also not tackled this issue.

The fact is that voter fraud is widely practiced in the US by both parties. You need a non partisan organization, if that is even possible, to clean it up and come up with a consistent national voting agency. We have that in Canada, it is called Elections Canada and it is fiercely non-partisan and as immune from government inflence as possible. It also ensures that votes are held to the identical system and standards country wide. You also need to scrap voting machi es as Canada and many European countries have done. Manual counting of votes with scrutineers from each party is the ONLY way to avoid fraud. The media who like immediate results on election night do not like it, but tough, its not supposed to be entertainment.

Just as a matter of interest, in Canada you register to vote by providing Id, and receive a voter card that has to be taken with you to vote. Your name is then cossed off the list to ensure you do not vote twice. At the poll, you have to present ID or if you do not have it, sign an affidavit. If have to vote at your designated polling station or use an absentee ballot which is only counted if it is close enough to make a difference. If the vote is close they will check up on those who signed affidavids, to ensure they are legit. A judicial recount is often held.

Accusations of voter fraud in Canada are relatively rare.
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Bringing up Bush and Florida again shows your complete ignorance. Bush would have won with every recount they could have done. You and some other useful idiots keep repeating the lie.
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Mar 27 2014, 11:34 PM
Bringing up Bush and Florida again shows your complete ignorance. Bush would have won with every recount they could have done. You and some other useful idiots keep repeating the lie.
I've read differing studies than you. What bothered me the most was having the Supreme Court interfere with a state's rights issue. The Florida court system was ruling against Bush. With all the shenanigans that take place in elections it's only when one is this close that arguments like this break out. But it is the first time that the federal judicial system decided a state election outcome for office of president. And by doing so, they decided the national election as well. A very dark day in our republic in my opinion.

It would be interesting to see how a Gore presidency would have been, my guess is we would be further down the socialist road but be far better off in the pocket book. The multi $trillions lost in the financial collapse would probably have never occurred, i doubt Gore would have used the housing market to shore up hi ratings and the economy. We were doing quite well under the Clinton presidency as far as the economy is concerned.

And I seriously doubt that Gore would have invaded Iraq or dug in for an extended stay in Afghanistan.
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You need to read some more, every study done said Bush would have run regardless.
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I disagree. So I guess we disagree.
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I could give you links but it's been done in the past and the lie still comes up.
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Mar 27 2014, 11:34 PM
Bringing up Bush and Florida again shows your complete ignorance. Bush would have won with every recount they could have done. You and some other useful idiots keep repeating the lie.
The results are not the point I was making. I was pointing out that your sysyem encourages fraud, and neither party, and that also means republicans like you, have done much to address it. Trying to point a finger at Democrats when you are 1/2 the problem is hypocrasy to the max. As I pointed out you need a non partisan overhaul of the entire system. Bring in foreigners to do it, if you are unable to find enough non partisan people in your own country.
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Mar 28 2014, 12:24 AM
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Mar 27 2014, 11:34 PM
Bringing up Bush and Florida again shows your complete ignorance. Bush would have won with every recount they could have done. You and some other useful idiots keep repeating the lie.
I've read differing studies than you. What bothered me the most was having the Supreme Court interfere with a state's rights issue. The Florida court system was ruling against Bush. With all the shenanigans that take place in elections it's only when one is this close that arguments like this break out. But it is the first time that the federal judicial system decided a state election outcome for office of president. And by doing so, they decided the national election as well. A very dark day in our republic in my opinion.

It would be interesting to see how a Gore presidency would have been, my guess is we would be further down the socialist road but be far better off in the pocket book. The multi $trillions lost in the financial collapse would probably have never occurred, i doubt Gore would have used the housing market to shore up hi ratings and the economy. We were doing quite well under the Clinton presidency as far as the economy is concerned.

And I seriously doubt that Gore would have invaded Iraq or dug in for an extended stay in Afghanistan.
I am not sure if the crash would not have also happened under Gore unless he had put in curbs on Wall Street. I do not think Iraq would have been invaded, but I am pretty certain he would have gone into Afghanistan as that was fully justified. We might be further along in tackling the Climate Change issue.

I am, however, not convinced Gore would have been a good President either. Maybe not as disastrous as Bush proved to be, but not great.
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Mar 28 2014, 12:24 AM
It would be interesting to see how a Gore presidency would have been, my guess is we would be further down the socialist road but be far better off in the pocket book. The multi $trillions lost in the financial collapse would probably have never occurred, i doubt Gore would have used the housing market to shore up hi ratings and the economy. We were doing quite well under the Clinton presidency as far as the economy is concerned.

And I seriously doubt that Gore would have invaded Iraq or dug in for an extended stay in Afghanistan.
I'm sure it would have been less damaging than Bush. But, we still would have had to contend with the rabid right and their obstructionism constipating congress and determined to deny him any wins, like they have with Obama.
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