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All that remains of the individual mandate: 20 minutes of paperwork; "Honey I shrank the mandate"
Topic Started: Mar 26 2014, 08:22 AM (471 Views)
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I'm sitting here laughing while shaking my head. At what point do we Americans simply throw up our hands and ask this basic question---"does this presidency ever tell the truth?" "Will this presidency ever quit deceiving and gaming us?"

Question to the board members, until; I posted this, had any of you heard of exemption 14? It's been out for three months, why was this not widely circulated on websites and through the media? Had the adminstration done so, it would have save millions from the grief and worry of Obamacare.


http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/03/25/All-That-Remains-of-the-Individual-Mandate-20-Minutes-of-Paperwork

All That Remains of the Individual Mandate: 20 Minutes of Paperwork

by JOHN SEXTON 25 Mar 2014, 9:58 AM PDT 175 POST A COMMENT

Surprise! The individual mandate has been watered down by the White House to the point that it barely exists at all. That's the conclusion of a piece at Politico which confirms what many conservatives were saying about the mandate two weeks ago.

Titled "Honey, I shrunk the mandate," the piece highlights exemption 14, which was added to the list of possible hardship exemptions in December. It notes that under exemption 14 practically anyone can claim a hardship exemption and documentation is requested "if possible." In other words, documentation is optional.

While the Politico piece accurately frames these exemptions to the mandate as changes needed to "make the politics work" it overlooks the politically salient fact that the White House hid exemption 14 from the public for nearly three months. As I reported back on March 13th, the exemptions page on Healthcare.gov listed only 13 exemptions until the Wall Street Journal story made exemption 14 an issue. Even Brian Beutler at Salon admitted the White House "didn’t broadcast the fact that just about anything counts as a hardship."

Incredibly, Politico suggests the real barrier to people using exemption 14 to opt out of the individual mandate is the paperwork. Author Brett Norman writes "According to a decision this month by the administration, you may be able to escape the obligation of the mandate for the rest of the Obama presidency — if you can deal with the paperwork." Later in the piece he adds that Brian Haile from Jackson Hewitt believes "the paperwork required to claim the hardship exemption would be all but prohibitive to many people."
Really?

Here's the paperwork to request an exemption. It is six pages long and page six is only used if you want to give someone else the power to fill out the form on your behalf. The form proper, i.e. the part you have to fill out, is three pages broken into four steps. Steps 3 and 4 are signing and mailing the form. The remaining steps are simple questions including your name, address, which exemption you want to claim (there's a list of all 14 options on page 2) and a brief explanation. The average person could complete this application in 20-25 minutes, less if they know about exemption 14 already.

Just a few months ago battles lines were drawn over delaying or removing the individual mandate. When the government shutdown ended without a delay, Politico reported on President Obama's "victory lap." But it turns out the White House blinked just a few weeks later. The mandate has become a paper tiger. The only obstacle Americans now face to claiming an exemption to this tax for the rest of the Obama administration is 20 minutes of relatively easy paperwork.
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Not only that but as I understand it they have moved the date out into April to be enrolled.

Remember they have been saying that the enrollments are right on target and doing fine. LOL

Edited by Berton, Mar 26 2014, 08:58 PM.
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Adjustments to the adjustments.
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Evidently no one had heard of Exemption 14. LOL What an absolute mess Obi put us in.
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The only obstacle Americans now face to claiming an exemption to this tax for the rest of the Obama administration is 20 minutes of relatively easy paperwork.


So, the mandate is phased in. What is the big deal? Other than the same old same old continual bashing of the president and the ACA?
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You tell us, why has the mandate been changed?
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Lots of changes have been made to accommodate unforeseen problems. No one accept Obama hating loonyville thought the ACA wouldn't need a fair amount of tweaking.
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I don't recall a one of you libs saying it would need the mandates changed.
You are saying Pelosi had it correct when she said they had to pass it to find out what was in it. What a way to install a bill this large. lol
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Mar 26 2014, 10:04 PM
Lots of changes have been made to accommodate unforeseen problems. No one accept Obama hating loonyville thought the ACA wouldn't need a fair amount of tweaking.

What changes have been legislated?

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There have been no changes in the ACA congressional bill, the law is supposed to be amended before any changes can be initiated. The president does not have the authority to change anything, legislation is in the duties of congress. So in affect, if you and I do not obey the law as written, then we have broken the law. Nobody can exempt you or I from a law.

There are committees in congress right now preparing a confrontation with Obama over his power grab, unfortunately, most Americans are taking his word as the law. My recommendation to anyone who was supposed to sign up for medical insurance and believes it's not right for them, to just ignore the entire process. It's too confusing for any rational law abiding citizen to deal with. Just go on with life.
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