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In my opinion
Topic Started: Mar 24 2014, 08:55 PM (315 Views)
Banandangees
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I think Bob Schieffer asked good questions concerning Russia and the Ukraine and I think Mitt Romney gave good answers:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/03/23/romney_obamas_faulty_judgment_naivete_on_russia_invited_crisis_in_ukraine.html

The problem, as I see it, is that our president lacks global insight, experience and thus wisdom on such matters and is too focused on national social policy, for the supposed leader of the free world, a position our presidents have held since WWII. A jump from community organizer to national is a huge jump.
Edited by Banandangees, Mar 24 2014, 08:57 PM.
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Pat
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The problem as I see it Ban is that most voters put far too much relevance in intelligence than they do on common sense and experience. People who have spent a lifetime in business face and faced all the machinations and chess moves that life has to offer. If they succeeded and came to a point in life where they can step aside from business and serve as a public leader, then the end result is having all of that experience and gained wisdom being applied to the job of governing. I could go on and on about this but let me offer up an experiment of sorts.

The next time you see Obama in an interview watch his body language and responses. Then compare it to this video. I'll explain what I saw, Romney has forgotten more about real life experience and high pressure interactions and decision making than Obama will ever learn in the years he has left as president. As the host asked a question there was no hesitancy in answering on Romney's part. Why, because after decades of business experience the chess moves and anticipation of a leader become part of them. They react on instincts that come from experience. With Obama note how he has to stop and ponder, to think over, and stammer as he begins a verbal response. Why? Because he lacks the basic experience. He is intelligent but the intelligence has very limited life lessons to draw from. He is a man of theories and lofty dreams, not one of practicality. Before anybody get's hot under the collar by this post, do as i said, go watch the two men in contrast. Watch how they respond to questions.
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The problem is this situation is far more complex. First you have a Europe heavily reliant on Russian energy and you have a region, that to all appearances overwhelmingly wants to be part of Russia, not Ukraine. Assuming that is the case, don't they have a right to that? The problem is the heavy handed way Russia went about it. They are aware that no US president in his right mind will start a war against them over a piece of territory half a world away. If it were Alaska, that would be another matter. What needs to be done is to now bring Ukraine and other former Soviet Republics into NATO. That will send the strongest signal to Putin. Could Obama have acted more forcibly? Sure, but I suspect the EU is discouraging that, and there are issues in the middle east that require Russian cooperation that trump this situation.
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True Teleco, but as Romney stated, had the experienceed brain been present, Obama would have already had in place a Castle and rook prepared to inflict pain. The Russians understand chess to Obama it's only a theory. And Putin and the Russian business owners who rule would have had to ponder what the territory grab would cost them. The emotions of nationalism would have been tempered by the threat of immediate loss. As it stands, the Russians acted without having to think deeply about real consequences. This is business/chess 101.
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I think you are placing too much on Obama, I am sure he is acting on the advice of economic & military advisors. But who knows.
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No man is an island especially Obama. Every successful man surrounds himself with talent. Has Obama surrounded himself with talent? I don't know but my guess is he hasn't. I always thought Jack Welsh or Lee Iacocca would make great leaders.
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Thump, before I got to read your post, I was thinking the same thing. As "unexposed" to the world political stage as he was and business leadership that he lacked that Pat pointed out, he needed to surround himself with well seasoned, globally experienced advisors. I don't think that he did that. I think that he has surrounded himself with those he thought would agree with him.
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Mar 25 2014, 12:34 AM
I think you are placing too much on Obama, I am sure he is acting on the advice of economic & military advisors. But who knows.

I doubt seriously if he is acting on the advice of military advisers. He has one adviser who he depends on and she does not like the military.

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Well, I really do not know. It would be interesting to find out.
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There have been articles in the past that detailed how the president and military do not see eye to eye. I think he listens to their reports and if their recommendation conflicts with his policies or goals, he rejects the recommendations. I don't know if one of their recommendations was to have a well defined list of repercussions if Russia invaded adjacent sovereign territory, I suspect that the military and experts in the state department would have recommended such as within their groups are those who understand the true nature of Russia and the history of the region.
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