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| Deleted User | Mar 23 2014, 07:00 AM Post #11 |
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No it is not changing the subject. I want to know how you justify the US doing it and not Russia. I slso want you to spell out just what Obama should do. If you are going to criticise his actions then tell us what you would do, step by step, then we can discuss that. Otherwise its nothing more than the usual political grandstanding on your part. Also please explain hpw Obama has turned on the cold war. Did he invade Crimea? I think you are mistaking putin for Obama. Putin is president of Russia and sent troops into Crimea. Obama is preseidentvof the US and did not. I assumed you knew the difference. |
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| Berton | Mar 23 2014, 07:02 AM Post #12 |
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Back to the specific subject: "It’s been a bit bewildering, even disorienting, to watch Obama get mugged by reality and refuse to press charges. But of course he doesn’t want to press charges. He doesn’t believe in an international system in which the American role is to lead. Former Saudi intelligence chief Turki al-Faisal was asked by the Financial Times recently about Putin and Obama. He explained: “While the wolf is eating the sheep, there is no shepherd to come to the rescue of the pack. This is where we find ourselves today.” Indeed it is. In the New York Times, Sanger comments, “History suggests that such eras [of retrenchment]—akin to what the United States went through after the two world wars and Vietnam—often look like weakness to the rest of the world.” Retrenchment looks like weakness because it is weakness. And the consequences of such eras of weakness aren’t happy." Note that even the very left wing NYT points to Obama's incompetence. Edited by Berton, Mar 23 2014, 07:06 AM.
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| Deleted User | Mar 23 2014, 07:06 AM Post #13 |
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Can you please explain why this is Obamas responsibility and not Russia and Europes? Does Crimea border the US? Now if Russia was trying to re-occupy Alaska that would be different. Maybe you should just mind you own business, like most other countries do. Nobody elected you world policeman. |
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| Berton | Mar 23 2014, 07:12 AM Post #14 |
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Because he is not leading and is showing weakness. As is explained in the article. Another one which you obviously have not read. When even the NYT is against your argument you must know you are in the wrong. "In late 1979, with the seizure of American hostages by Iran and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, President Jimmy Carter was mugged by reality. Carter then tried, however haplessly, to change direction. But Barack Obama is no Jimmy Carter. Will Obama increase defense spending, as Carter did? Is he likely to launch a military excursion, as Carter did, over the objection—and then resignation—of his dovish secretary of state? Carter, whatever his problems, was more hawkish than most in his party. In this he followed in the footsteps of every other Democratic president in the past century. Until Barack Obama." Edited by Berton, Mar 23 2014, 07:14 AM.
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| Deleted User | Mar 23 2014, 07:14 AM Post #15 |
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Ypu are not going to give any specifics are you? Oh well it is your usual pattern and why you come across as a brainwashed dogmatist, |
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| Berton | Mar 23 2014, 07:19 AM Post #16 |
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As usual you resort to insults rather than discuss the specific subject. It’s been a bit bewildering, even disorienting, to watch Obama get mugged by reality and refuse to press charges. But of course he doesn’t want to press charges. He doesn’t believe in an international system in which the American role is to lead. Former Saudi intelligence chief Turki al-Faisal was asked by the Financial Times recently about Putin and Obama. He explained: “While the wolf is eating the sheep, there is no shepherd to come to the rescue of the pack. This is where we find ourselves today.” |
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| Deleted User | Mar 23 2014, 07:31 AM Post #17 |
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Still waiting for your plan, if you have one, which I seriously doubt. That is the problem with people like you, no substance. Come back when you have a viable plan of your own and I will try to present it to Obama. |
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| Berton | Mar 23 2014, 07:43 AM Post #18 |
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I see that you still have not done your reading assignment. There is a plan in the article. Come back when you have read it. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 23 2014, 07:46 AM Post #19 |
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I want your plan. Put up or shut up, is how the saying goes. |
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| Berton | Mar 23 2014, 07:53 AM Post #20 |
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I agree with the article which is why I posted it. Either accept it or not as the saying goes. |
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