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Poor folks and Democrats are migrating to the city; welfare offices are not that far down the road
Topic Started: Mar 22 2014, 12:19 AM (1,234 Views)
campingken
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The anti ACA and Obama crowd don't let facts get in the way of what they want to believe.
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campingken
Mar 22 2014, 09:49 AM
The anti ACA and Obama crowd don't let facts get in the way of what they want to believe.
Hatred is "mind" boggling.
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I think a young daughter might very well be better off under the ACA. To begin with, they can stay on mom and dad's insurance until 26, and secondly, unlike young men, having health benefits that guarantee neo natal and the cost of having a baby. However, it's pretty clear that for those under 35 as a whole, the health insurance policies are far over inflated. This is to defray the expense of insuring older people and and those with existing conditions. That group hit the jackpot.

What's funny is how Obama was able to hoodwink and then screw over all of those younger voters. 66% in 2008 and 60% in 2012 of the younger voters voted for Obama. And his signature achievement screwed them royal. From the polls, they have finally realized the scam.
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campingken
Mar 22 2014, 04:39 AM
How has the ACA effected your Medicare? Do you consider Medicare also a restriction of your personal freedom?

I don't look at life in terms of, just me.

With Medicare, I don't get fined if I don't sign up for it.
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wanderingjays
Mar 22 2014, 05:54 AM
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Mar 22 2014, 03:52 AM
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Mar 22 2014, 03:08 AM
Berton
Mar 22 2014, 01:17 AM
You keep implying that religious people are imposing on you Pat. How are they doing it?

Through gaining political influence and then proposing and passing legislation that restricts personal freedom.

The Party of Obama is doing that now... without using religion. ObamaCare is an example.
That's a load of BS. Mine hasn't changed and my daughters insurance bill has dropped by almost half.

Cherry picking for what suits you. BS in hiding.

There are many whose healthcare costs are going up (not to mention the ones who lost what they were happy with). And of course, there are the fines if you don't comply with what use to be "free choice," ...... freedom to not pick any if that's what you want.
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Not only that but some 30,000,000 people will still not have insurance. I thought that was the main reason we destroyed out healthcare system, to get the uninsured on insurance.

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I know you know Berton but the libs don't. The reason for Obicare was control, it has nothing to do with health care.
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No one has to sign up for the ACA. Just refuse and pay the fine. That's freedom.
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They had the choice to not by insurance before Obamacare. Now after destroying our healthcare system and spending tons of money we have little to show for it.

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campingken
Mar 23 2014, 01:39 AM
No one has to sign up for the ACA. Just refuse and pay the fine. That's freedom.

As Josey Wales said, "Dying is not much of a living."

Sign up or pay a fine is not much of a free choice. Sounds more like a perfect example of "coercion" to me.

("coercion," the practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.)

Josey Wales would probably say, "Coercion is not much of a freedom."
Edited by Banandangees, Mar 23 2014, 05:54 AM.
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