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| What are your expectations for healthcare?; insurance and care level | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 19 2014, 12:14 AM (482 Views) | |
| colo_crawdad | Mar 19 2014, 08:34 AM Post #11 |
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I have not seen anyone on this board argue as you suggest, Berton. Most of us know what the true proper usage of egalitarianism is.
But, if you want to argue for elitism, as you so often do, go right ahead. |
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| Pat | Mar 19 2014, 08:42 AM Post #12 |
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You guys can't seem to discuss any subject without twisting it to arguing left vs right. I'm about to the point of leaving The board. Let's try this again, you specifically, what are your expectations for healthcare? |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 19 2014, 08:58 AM Post #13 |
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My expectations for health care in a personal sense is that I want no heroic action to be taken if I am about to become a vegetable. Otherwise, I expect the same care available to those with more money than I have. My insurance will most likely allow that. |
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| tomdrobin | Mar 19 2014, 12:17 PM Post #14 |
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I would hope the healthcare would be available as long as I can have a meaningful life going forward. There are a multitude of ethical questions surrounding providing health care dollars for people who abuse themselves with food, drugs, booze and dangerous activities. I don't think there are any easy answers. Perhaps lower premiums for healthy weight and no smoking? Another issue is, would it be appropriate to terminate pregnancies where there is significant chance the fetus will be severely disabled physically or mentally and require lifetime care? |
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| Sea Dog | Mar 19 2014, 08:25 PM Post #15 |
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Pat, everything in your country has , these past few years, become left versus right. Sad but true. As far as equal health care for all, rich or poor, Why should anyone expect less, I certainly do not! Should the police and fire trucks only come to the homes of the wealthy, What is the difference. |
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| Pat | Mar 19 2014, 08:51 PM Post #16 |
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I understand the expectations but logic says that there are always going to be two realities. The top physicians, the top medical facilities and access to cutting edge medicine is never going to be affordable in a taxpayer funded healthcare system. The wealthy can and do reach out with their assets and receive better treatment and better results. That's not to say that decent results and care should not be something the taxpayer system should strive to deliver. |
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| wanderingjays | Mar 20 2014, 06:13 AM Post #17 |
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HELL IN A HELMET
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You're the administrator . Take care of the problem. Or maybe quit being an admin. |
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| Corky52 | Mar 20 2014, 06:21 AM Post #18 |
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The rich often spend frivolously, especially when it comes to health care. How often is "heroic" effort needed in health care? A simple base level of health services would meet the needs of the vast majority of Americans, the question often comes at the end of life, how much for how many extra minutes?
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| Deleted User | Mar 20 2014, 08:16 AM Post #19 |
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I think the Canadian system would be a good template, but with some changes. Although out health care cost are about 50% pp of yours, due to our single payer system, our system does have a couple of basic flaws. We make it a bit too easy to go to a doctor. Everytime I go into emergency, i see people in there with things like a common cold or people too lazy to make an appointment with their own doctor, or their own doctor knows they are a hypochodriac. I think there needs to be a basic charge to go to emergency. $20 would do it. People go there because its free and it bogs down and nickle and dimes the system. Somebody with a real emergency gets lost in the crowd. In fact if you have a real emergency, call an ambulance ($60), that ensures you get dealt with first. |
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| Berton | Mar 20 2014, 08:24 PM Post #20 |
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But we were told if we only followed the Canadian system of one payer there would be no backup at the ER because everyone would go to their own doctor. Another lie apparently. |
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