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Premiums will rise in 2015
Topic Started: Mar 13 2014, 07:06 AM (723 Views)
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Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

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But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
"We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year."

-- Barack Obama, presidential debate

Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800092.html

“The other thing we’ve done is to say, what are the critical needs of small business? A lot of time, one of the biggest challenges is to make sure that you, as a sole proprietor, that you can get health insurance for you and your family. So when you hear about the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — and I don’t mind the name because I really do care. That’s why we passed it. You should know that once we have fully implemented, you’re going to be able to buy insurance through a pool so that you can get the same good rates as a group that if you’re an employee at a big company you can get right now — which means your premiums will go down.”

— President Obama, campaign speech in Cincinnati, July 16, 2012

quote: "Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts."

Do you think it is logical to expect lower premiums based on prevention and records keeping in year 1 of the law? Prevention implies that you have health screening and programs in affect that reduce such health related areas as diet, obesity, exercise, regular screenings and check ups. Record keeping implies that you begin addressing decades of inefficient operations. I think that where the two have been introduced such as Canada, Australia and Europe it has had a downward affect on healthcare costs.

The real question to me is has there been any concrete moves in either of these areas since the law was passed????

I think the answer to your question is what Sebilius said. Premiums will rise in 2015. Obama said they would go down. They are not.

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Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

LINK


But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
"We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year."

-- Barack Obama, presidential debate

Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800092.html

“The other thing we’ve done is to say, what are the critical needs of small business? A lot of time, one of the biggest challenges is to make sure that you, as a sole proprietor, that you can get health insurance for you and your family. So when you hear about the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — and I don’t mind the name because I really do care. That’s why we passed it. You should know that once we have fully implemented, you’re going to be able to buy insurance through a pool so that you can get the same good rates as a group that if you’re an employee at a big company you can get right now — which means your premiums will go down.”

— President Obama, campaign speech in Cincinnati, July 16, 2012

quote: "Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts."

Do you think it is logical to expect lower premiums based on prevention and records keeping in year 1 of the law? Prevention implies that you have health screening and programs in affect that reduce such health related areas as diet, obesity, exercise, regular screenings and check ups. Record keeping implies that you begin addressing decades of inefficient operations. I think that where the two have been introduced such as Canada, Australia and Europe it has had a downward affect on healthcare costs.

The real question to me is has there been any concrete moves in either of these areas since the law was passed????

I think the answer to your question is what Sebilius said. Premiums will rise in 2015. Obama said they would go down. They are not.

actually they are down, 50% of what I used to pay. Do you think they should go down every year. Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?
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Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

LINK


But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
"We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year."

-- Barack Obama, presidential debate

Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800092.html

“The other thing we’ve done is to say, what are the critical needs of small business? A lot of time, one of the biggest challenges is to make sure that you, as a sole proprietor, that you can get health insurance for you and your family. So when you hear about the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — and I don’t mind the name because I really do care. That’s why we passed it. You should know that once we have fully implemented, you’re going to be able to buy insurance through a pool so that you can get the same good rates as a group that if you’re an employee at a big company you can get right now — which means your premiums will go down.”

— President Obama, campaign speech in Cincinnati, July 16, 2012

quote: "Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts."

Do you think it is logical to expect lower premiums based on prevention and records keeping in year 1 of the law? Prevention implies that you have health screening and programs in affect that reduce such health related areas as diet, obesity, exercise, regular screenings and check ups. Record keeping implies that you begin addressing decades of inefficient operations. I think that where the two have been introduced such as Canada, Australia and Europe it has had a downward affect on healthcare costs.

The real question to me is has there been any concrete moves in either of these areas since the law was passed????

I think the answer to your question is what Sebilius said. Premiums will rise in 2015. Obama said they would go down. They are not.

actually they are down, 50% of what I used to pay. Do you think they should go down every year. Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?

Are you calling Sebelus a liar?

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Cappy just throws crap out there, he has no idea even what he's saying.
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Cappy just throws crap out there, he has no idea even what he's saying.
Is this the narrative Pat does not want?
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Go whine in a PM then.
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Go whine in a PM then.
more narrative
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Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

LINK


But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
"We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year."

-- Barack Obama, presidential debate

Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800092.html

“The other thing we’ve done is to say, what are the critical needs of small business? A lot of time, one of the biggest challenges is to make sure that you, as a sole proprietor, that you can get health insurance for you and your family. So when you hear about the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — and I don’t mind the name because I really do care. That’s why we passed it. You should know that once we have fully implemented, you’re going to be able to buy insurance through a pool so that you can get the same good rates as a group that if you’re an employee at a big company you can get right now — which means your premiums will go down.”

— President Obama, campaign speech in Cincinnati, July 16, 2012

quote: "Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts."

Do you think it is logical to expect lower premiums based on prevention and records keeping in year 1 of the law? Prevention implies that you have health screening and programs in affect that reduce such health related areas as diet, obesity, exercise, regular screenings and check ups. Record keeping implies that you begin addressing decades of inefficient operations. I think that where the two have been introduced such as Canada, Australia and Europe it has had a downward affect on healthcare costs.

The real question to me is has there been any concrete moves in either of these areas since the law was passed????

I think the answer to your question is what Sebilius said. Premiums will rise in 2015. Obama said they would go down. They are not.

actually they are down, 50% of what I used to pay. Do you think they should go down every year. Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?

Are you calling Sebelus a liar?

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let me bump it for you, save you some annoyance
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I am not annoyed, I am waiting for your answer. But I understand if you don't want to answer. We all understand.

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