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Premiums will rise in 2015
Topic Started: Mar 13 2014, 07:06 AM (724 Views)
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Berton
Mar 13 2014, 07:32 PM
jcapps
Mar 13 2014, 11:34 AM
all insurance goes up, what a moronic complaint

Obama said they would be going down. He must be the moron you are talking about.

They did go down, by half! Increases happen. Every thinking person I know has checked it out and signed on. I was out last week and some idiot was bloviating how its horrible, how his deductible is now 14k and his out of pocket is 8k. And how he has the platinum plan. I chewed him up and spit him out, embarrassed the hell out of him in front of his audience
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Mar 13 2014, 12:46 PM
Without even reading it, the market doesn't vote.
Without reading it? LOL.
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Mar 13 2014, 09:14 PM
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Mar 13 2014, 07:32 PM
jcapps
Mar 13 2014, 11:34 AM
all insurance goes up, what a moronic complaint

Obama said they would be going down. He must be the moron you are talking about.

They did go down, by half! Increases happen. Every thinking person I know has checked it out and signed on. I was out last week and some idiot was bloviating how its horrible, how his deductible is now 14k and his out of pocket is 8k. And how he has the platinum plan. I chewed him up and spit him out, embarrassed the hell out of him in front of his audience
Your making up stories hardly is fact Cappy.
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Mar 13 2014, 07:06 AM
Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

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But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
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Unless they get all the healthy insured there is no way premiums will not increase. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Now Obi is basically repealing the mandate for many individuals, that should send a clear signal.
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Unless they get all the healthy insured there is no way premiums will not increase. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Now Obi is basically repealing the mandate for many individuals, that should send a clear signal.
Yep, the percentage of young signing up is running lower than the percentage needed to fund the older and poor. And the administration has yet to tell us how many have actually paid for a healthcare plan or whether they had previous insurance policies that were canceled under Obamacare. Don't expect any true figures until after the mid term elections.
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Playing politics with people's lives for sure.
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Mar 13 2014, 07:06 AM
Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

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But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
"We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year."

-- Barack Obama, presidential debate

Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800092.html

“The other thing we’ve done is to say, what are the critical needs of small business? A lot of time, one of the biggest challenges is to make sure that you, as a sole proprietor, that you can get health insurance for you and your family. So when you hear about the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — and I don’t mind the name because I really do care. That’s why we passed it. You should know that once we have fully implemented, you’re going to be able to buy insurance through a pool so that you can get the same good rates as a group that if you’re an employee at a big company you can get right now — which means your premiums will go down.”

— President Obama, campaign speech in Cincinnati, July 16, 2012

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Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

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But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
Why confuse them with facts, Pat?
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Mar 13 2014, 07:06 AM
Premiums will rise in 2015, says Sebelius

Premiums will rise in 2015 under ObamaCare, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said on Wednesday.

“I think premiums are likely to go up, but go up at a smaller pace than what we’ve seen since 2010,” Sebelius said in response to a question from Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.).

“The increases are far less significant than what they were prior to the Affordable Care Act,” she said during testimony to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Average healthcare premiums for most consumers have been rising steadily for more than a decade, though the trend has slowed in recent years. Experts say it's too early to tell whether changes to the insurance market under ObamaCare are helping to bring down costs.......

LINK


But Obama promised that premiums would go down. Proof he is a liar.


From what I recall, the promise made was that premium increases would be less under Obamacare, not that there would be no premium increases. If inflation in healthcare is shown to drop then that is a positive result regardless of all the other problems with the law.
"We're going to work with your employer to lower the cost of your premiums by up to $2,500 a year."

-- Barack Obama, presidential debate

Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100800092.html

“The other thing we’ve done is to say, what are the critical needs of small business? A lot of time, one of the biggest challenges is to make sure that you, as a sole proprietor, that you can get health insurance for you and your family. So when you hear about the Affordable Care Act — Obamacare — and I don’t mind the name because I really do care. That’s why we passed it. You should know that once we have fully implemented, you’re going to be able to buy insurance through a pool so that you can get the same good rates as a group that if you’re an employee at a big company you can get right now — which means your premiums will go down.”

— President Obama, campaign speech in Cincinnati, July 16, 2012

quote: "Sen. Barack Obama said last night that he would cut health-care insurance premiums by as much as $2,500 a year by investing in prevention and improving electronic health records. He has made this assertion repeatedly on the campaign trail, but it has been greeted with skepticism by independent experts."

Do you think it is logical to expect lower premiums based on prevention and records keeping in year 1 of the law? Prevention implies that you have health screening and programs in affect that reduce such health related areas as diet, obesity, exercise, regular screenings and check ups. Record keeping implies that you begin addressing decades of inefficient operations. I think that where the two have been introduced such as Canada, Australia and Europe it has had a downward affect on healthcare costs.

The real question to me is has there been any concrete moves in either of these areas since the law was passed????
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