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| Today’s Dominant Racial Dog Whistle?; Obamacare | |
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| Pat | Mar 12 2014, 04:29 AM Post #31 |
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Well Colo, I'm referring to the OP and in particular the highlighted area for this discussion. The charge seems to be that republicans use code words and phrases so that the old standard of just calling a black a nigger is not necessary. Blacks call themselves nigger so I guess I should assume they are racist against other blacks too. So are we are not discussing what Tom started? If not, then what are we discussing. Kiddlehopping? Whatever that is? This is not the first thread on this board where a liberal has thrown around the racist card. After all, you guys know just what a fearful reaction you will get from the other side when you do it. So I bring up the fact, and yes it is a fact, that blacks are as racist as the next race, certainly as self serving if not more so. And frankly I'm tired of the race card being wheeled out by the left as a tool to force free Americans to bend towards the will of progressive thought and deed. You Colo and the other liberals here don't want in my opinion, a real discussion on race or racism, but would rather try to paint the picture how you see it and to frame the talking points and discussions. I say this because you have decided to prance around the OP without engaging in a conversation of what has been charged. "Gee, those evil conservatives have it in for blacks, Hispanics and the poor. (code for the successful conservatives need to cough up more tax revenue to fund more entitlements)." It's all someone else's fault that somebody else is in a particular situation. It's the right blaming Obama for his, well for his failures, (who else is to blame?), it's all racist that Obama has not been more successful is the mantra. It is getting old Colo. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 12 2014, 05:06 AM Post #32 |
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Pat, if that is how you see my attitude, I cannot help it . If you are actually unwilling to discuss racism as it is commonly used as per the reporting of dictionaries, then we really have nothing to discuss. As you said, "racism, whatever that is." Well I know what it is and it is not anything that President Obama has demonstrated by either comment or actions. On the other hand your own comment that "there is an inherent believe of entitlement among blacks" does indicate behavior defined as racism in both dictionaries linked here. I have wondered before if calling b blacks or other groups "racist" somehow relives guilt on the part of right wingers who do, in fact, engage in racism? is it the old ghrade school belief that, "if others do it, it makes it acceptabe for me to do it?"
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| Pat | Mar 12 2014, 06:14 AM Post #33 |
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As I said in another post, you and the liberals will read into comments made by conservatives that what they say is racist, as you have with the comment I made. It is not me being unwilling to discuss the OP but you as indicated by your previous post where you mae my previous comment the focus of your last post. You refuse to engage Colo. Which is your right. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 12 2014, 06:19 AM Post #34 |
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Pat, If you are unwilling to use language with its urual meaning as reported in dictionaries, what is there for me to engage? I agree it is your choice, and right, to use definitions not generally accepted in society as a defense. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 12 2014, 06:26 AM Post #35 |
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I firmly believe that some in the US Right intentionally misuse the words racism and/or racist in order to justify their own racist feelings. As I said earlier in a post, Pat, I hope you didn't really mean to say what you did about blacks having an "inherent" belief in entitlements. I sincerely hope you meant a that some blacks and some whites have a "learned" belief in entitlements.
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| wanderingjays | Mar 12 2014, 09:13 AM Post #36 |
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HELL IN A HELMET
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You guys are argueing semantics . Racism is racism no matter what skin color is involved |
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| wanderingjays | Mar 12 2014, 09:16 AM Post #37 |
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HELL IN A HELMET
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as an after thought . There is no black race or white race or yellow race , there is just the human race. Stand a black a caucasion an asian in the corner and skin them. They are all the same color , red and drippy Edited to correct spelling . No nefarious editing here Edited by wanderingjays, Mar 12 2014, 09:17 AM.
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| tomdrobin | Mar 12 2014, 11:06 AM Post #38 |
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I think many are missing the whole point of the writer of "Dog Whistle Politics". What he is saying is politicians use names or slogans that can't be called racist. But, they are designed to bring out animosities in people against others. When you hear the term "welfare queen" what comes to mind? Certainly not your little old granny or your mom. No, it's those others that are different from you. How about the term "union thug". Again not your dad or brother, but some organized crime figure. How about "food stamp president"? Again, designed to vilify those others, not you or anyone associated with you. |
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| Pat | Mar 13 2014, 12:01 AM Post #39 |
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As i said, you still refuse to engage and discuss the OP. Let me know when you decide to do so. |
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