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Before you critcise Obama on Ukraine
Topic Started: Mar 9 2014, 12:34 PM (583 Views)
Berton
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Mar 9 2014, 10:39 PM
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Mar 9 2014, 01:19 PM
doglaugh

Obama went on vacation. No doubt he will have several rounds of golf to show just how tough he is.

I see ypu have nothing substantial to contribute. Is that what you like to call "diverting"? Do you even remember the Georgia incident? Or would you prefer to forget it and the fact the current President is reacting in an identical fashion to your lord & saviour? (BTW, IMO, Bush probably reacted properly as well)

Diverting? What? By pointing out the obvious? That Obama's only problem with Russia is that it keeps him from playing golf as much as he want to do? Tell me what the date was that President Bush went to the Caribbean during the Georgia incident? Or did he say home and take care of business?

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BS thread anyway, Georgia and Bush is not comparable to Ukraine.
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Mar 10 2014, 01:50 AM
BS thread anyway, Georgia and Bush is not comparable to Ukraine.
LOL. Try reading the history, it is almost identical. Russia sending in troops to a former USSR possestion ostensibly to protect ethic Russians. It is about as close to being an identical incident, as is possible, and Obama is playing it exactly the same as Bush did, so far.
Were you on another planet at the time?
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Berton
Mar 10 2014, 01:42 AM
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Mar 9 2014, 10:39 PM
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Mar 9 2014, 01:19 PM
doglaugh

Obama went on vacation. No doubt he will have several rounds of golf to show just how tough he is.

I see ypu have nothing substantial to contribute. Is that what you like to call "diverting"? Do you even remember the Georgia incident? Or would you prefer to forget it and the fact the current President is reacting in an identical fashion to your lord & saviour? (BTW, IMO, Bush probably reacted properly as well)

Diverting? What? By pointing out the obvious? That Obama's only problem with Russia is that it keeps him from playing golf as much as he want to do? Tell me what the date was that President Bush went to the Caribbean during the Georgia incident? Or did he say home and take care of business?

Bush never took vacations during an international crisis? You may want to reconsider what you said.

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He also took one during the Georgia crisis

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Mar 10 2014, 05:47 AM
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Mar 10 2014, 01:42 AM
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Mar 9 2014, 10:39 PM
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Mar 9 2014, 01:19 PM
doglaugh

Obama went on vacation. No doubt he will have several rounds of golf to show just how tough he is.

I see ypu have nothing substantial to contribute. Is that what you like to call "diverting"? Do you even remember the Georgia incident? Or would you prefer to forget it and the fact the current President is reacting in an identical fashion to your lord & saviour? (BTW, IMO, Bush probably reacted properly as well)

Diverting? What? By pointing out the obvious? That Obama's only problem with Russia is that it keeps him from playing golf as much as he want to do? Tell me what the date was that President Bush went to the Caribbean during the Georgia incident? Or did he say home and take care of business?

Bush never took vacations during an international crisis? You may want to reconsider what you said.

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Straw man alert!!!


That is not what I said.

Besides, the circumstances are not the same.

Georgia started the war when it shelled the South Ossetian capital on Aug. 7 and 8, 2008. In Ukraine, protesters unseated President Viktor Yanukovych, who used police and snipers to kill dozens of protesters.

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Berton
Mar 10 2014, 01:39 AM
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doglaugh

Obama went on vacation. No doubt he will have several rounds of golf to show just how tough he is.

doglaugh
I forgot about Bush not being "tough enough" to take on Russia over the Georgia invasion. Perhaps he felt he had more pressing business at the ranch.

Remember him taking a vacation in the Caribbean during that time?

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It sure is funny to read Berton asking a question and then labeling the answer a "diversion" or a straw man."
Edited by colo_crawdad, Mar 10 2014, 08:22 AM.
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Colo,
You didn't provide the "correct"(desired) reply, you are a poor student for the "Great Teacher"!

P.S. the "Great Teacher" is very direct reference to a certain historical person that I hope will be appreciated!



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There is not a lot we can do other than object diplomatically. A military standoff with Russia would be too dangerous. That should only be reserved when we under imminent threat. Some limited sanctions might make us feel better, but probably won't deter Putin. Heavy economic sanctions require European buy in, and they are just to tied in with Russia economically particularly in the energy sector. Obama's critics will of course take this opportunity to criticize him, like they always do. But, he is handling it as well as anyone could.
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Mar 10 2014, 08:21 AM
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doglaugh

Obama went on vacation. No doubt he will have several rounds of golf to show just how tough he is.

doglaugh
I forgot about Bush not being "tough enough" to take on Russia over the Georgia invasion. Perhaps he felt he had more pressing business at the ranch.

Remember him taking a vacation in the Caribbean during that time?

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It sure is funny to read Berton asking a question and then labeling the answer a "diversion" or a straw man."

Hmmmm....... Another post about me rather than the specific subject. Typical of the extreme left wing.

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