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| Texas will be down to six abortion clinics by September; Most can't meet medical requirements | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 7 2014, 01:59 AM (397 Views) | |
| Pat | Mar 7 2014, 07:35 AM Post #11 |
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I believe it was the state law and health department that had laws in place which regulate what facilities need in order to perform medical procedures. One regulation stipulates that a doctor have admitting rights to a hospital in the event procedures take place away from a licensed hospital. Safety of the woman is key. The hospitals, doctors, and abortion clinics were not operating legally. It sounds like only six were with 38 not. Are you in favor of allowing illegal medical practices? Why did democrats object to the law being enforced which protect women's rights? |
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| Berton | Mar 7 2014, 08:41 AM Post #12 |
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Of course they want the illegal procedures to continue Pat. Any thing is justified if it goes in the liberal way. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 7 2014, 08:53 AM Post #13 |
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That s certainly interesting spin, but the title of the article linked in the OP is: "How Republicans Won the Fight Over Abortion in Texas" |
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| Berton | Mar 7 2014, 08:56 AM Post #14 |
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You may think it is spin but is it the truth or not? |
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| campingken | Mar 8 2014, 10:42 AM Post #15 |
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Texas can add this to their proud record of a high rate of teen pregnancy and high school drop outs. They plan to shrink government until it is small enough to fit into a woman's womb.. |
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| tomdrobin | Mar 8 2014, 01:34 PM Post #16 |
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Not quite.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/08/opinion/collins-cloudy-and-cold.html?hp&rref=opinion This isn't about protecting women's health, it's about restricting access to abortion services. It is not uncommon for Dr.s to not have admitting privilages at local hospitals. It has nothing to do with their qualifications. That doesn't mean they can't send a patient to the ER to be evaluated by a staff Dr. for admittance if necessary. |
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| Neutral | Mar 8 2014, 10:59 PM Post #17 |
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Gee, I am so glad you can explain it better than the Texans. |
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| Pat | Mar 9 2014, 01:44 AM Post #18 |
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It still goes back to safety of the patient Tom. When I had cataract surgery, the room in which the procedure was performed was a complete surgical facility. With an abortion there is a chance of hemorrhaging and bleeding out. It does happen. Infections do happen. Antibiotic resistant germs are everywhere I realize that this is not common if everything is handled properly but the medical field in highly regulated and it gets back to the basic root of practicing medicine, "do no harm". "Error on the side of caution". I think the reason that these clinics have settled on practices that are less than legal, has to do with the expense which must be borne by the patient. It comes down to money, from the medical community and legal side they can't let one surgical procedure off the hook without letting other procedures do the same. Women are not being deprived of their rights anymore than a guy who can't afford it is deprived of plastic surgery to rid himself of facial deformation caused by an accident. Abortion like plastic surgery are elective. If a woman argues that her health is being threatened by the pregnancy then it is even more imperative that the abortion be handled at a hospital. I'm all for liberty but that must include being willing to live within the bounds of the law. Change the law if you want but like I said, that opens up other areas where it could be argued that lessor surgical procedures of all manner should be available likewise and the doctors not associated with hospitals for admitting privileges. There will probably be other states that follow this route. |
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| tomdrobin | Mar 9 2014, 02:08 AM Post #19 |
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Again, this is not about patient safety. It's about restricting abortions. I'm for turning Mexas back over to Mexico. And, maybe Arizona too.
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| Pat | Mar 9 2014, 03:12 AM Post #20 |
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That is probably the motive Tom but the issue is still safety as far as the law is concerned. I suppose the next question would be why the state allowed procedures to occur outside the law. |
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