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Envy vs. Achievement
Topic Started: Mar 4 2014, 08:42 PM (663 Views)
Berton
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Envy vs. Achievement

Envy is one of the most useless of feelings, both in our private and business lives. Yet many people experience it, at least from time to time. They envy their neighbor’s fancy car and exotic vacations, or wealth in general. They envy their friends’ educational achievements or the praise they receive for being high achievers. Or they envy their acquaintance’s acumen and success in business. The higher someone’s achievements, the more they are envied by others. Take “the 1%,” the top income earners in the world, for instance. I doubt that 99% of the people envy them—I certainly don’t—but many people do. Where does envy come from, and why is it a waste of time?

Envy is a thoroughly second-handed feeling. Instead of focusing on their own lives—how to make them better and how to achieve their goals through their own effort, enviers dwell on what others’ have and what they themselves do not. Instead of admiring achievers, being grateful, and wanting to emulate them, enviers focus on the negative: what they themselves lack but others have. Enviers feel sorry for themselves......

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That explains the attitude of a lot of liberals.

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I'm not so old that I can't learn a new word:

egalitarianism


Egalitarianism is a trend of thought in political philosophy. An egalitarian favors equality of some sort: People should get the same, or be treated the same, or be treated as equals, in some respect.


When nurtured, it births progressive socialism and communism. But that's not the whole story. Those who lead the egalitarianism dream for the masses, do not include themselves, as has been evident throughout the world where progressive socialism and communism abounds. Those leaders live in luxury, above equality.... it's only for the common man/woman who are gullible enough to give them the power to level their living field. And as has been shown in many countries, the level of that leveled living field lowers with time as incentive dwindles and fails to give support to the same level of living, as despair sets in. What else is there then besides revolution. :33:
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I guess we will NEVER be able to accuse members of the US Right of Egalitarianism. Most of then would NEVER favor the concept that other "people should be treated as equals"

That, and envy, does go a long way in explaining may of the4 attitudes of the US Right.



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The enviers do not seek to identify positive action they can take. They don’t ask: What can I do to become an achiever, too? They want the achievers to share their success and their wealth, so that these, and their consequence, happiness, would be more equally distributed. Surely, most people do not go to their better-off neighbors directly to ask for some their money or one of their cars; however, they whole-heartedly support government’s progressive income tax schemes that make those who produce the most pay a disproportionate amount of taxes. For example, the top 1% of the income earners in the United States pay 30% of all the income taxes, whereas almost 50% of Americans pay no income tax at all.

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Oh brother, you left out priviledge from the equation. That is the principle that those in charge feather their own nests and those that financially support them by stacking the cards in their favor at the expense of the majority.
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colo_crawdad
Mar 4 2014, 09:45 PM
I guess we will NEVER be able to accuse members of the US Right of Egalitarianism. Most of then would NEVER favor the concept that other "people should be treated as equals"

That, and envy, does go a long way in explaining may of the4 attitudes of the US Right.



How odd that most of those who feel people do not deserve to be treated in a fair and equal fashion are fundamentalist Christians disobeying the basic tenet of their religion. Christ would be rolling over in his grave if he had one.
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colo_crawdad
Mar 4 2014, 09:45 PM
I guess we will NEVER be able to accuse members of the US Right of Egalitarianism. Most of then would NEVER favor the concept that other "people should be treated as equals"

That, and envy, does go a long way in explaining may of the4 attitudes of the US Right.




Do the more "above equal" liberals actually treat themselves as with the less equal? Do they really voluntarily sacrifice for the less equal, voluntarily give up some of what they have to some less equal person so they actually participate in the equalization process; or are they pointing for someone else to be doing it; or, for not doing it? Do the liberals who spend their winters in the warmth of the south, at some resort, take a less equal person with them every winter (family not included)? Does the liberal actually voluntarily share his gained wealth with some less equal so that they are equal; or do they just talk the talk?

You can and should act toward (treat) people as "equals" even if you aren't equal. But, there will always be greater and lesser persons than yourself. Egalitarians (those on the Left) just cant' accept that fact. They try, futilely, to force greater and lesser persons to be the same, with themselves somehow being on the periphery of exclusion in that effort. It's for others they point to and blame, for them to do the equalizing. They thrive in the gallantry of their noble gestures. "They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long." They talk the talk; but like those on "the Right," who they accuse, they don't do any more to actually "equalize" than those they accuse; and perhaps not as much.
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This is not about income redistribution, it is about everybody paying their fair share of the costs of a stable civilized society. In many ways that ls redistribution, but that is a necessary part of any stable peaceful society. The days of ghengis khan and everybody for themselves, are hopefully behind us. Unless you yearn for the sort of state we see in Somalia.
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I received first hand envy from a member here who sent me a pm saying I am a fake. That I do not own any business nor own cars nor have done all the things I say.

Envy is a dangerous feeling for the possessor. It cuts a hole in their stomach


Me, not envious. I am happy when others do well. I have an employee that often wins $1000 or so on scratchers, soccer betting etc. It does not matter, this guy wins. I am thrilled for him. I am happy to see others doing well. My friend came up with a product, got his patent and already has been offered 15 million by a major company. I am thrilled for him. He is a great guy, he deserves his reward.
Envy serves no purpose. I would rather do the best I can do then worry about what another is doing
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Ban,

You might want to read sosme of John Rawls and his use of the "veil of ignorance" when designing an just society. Ten you might understand the liberal demand for treating people equally and fairly.
Edited by colo_crawdad, Mar 6 2014, 10:38 PM.
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