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Oh sure!; Now they want the old white guys
Topic Started: Mar 4 2014, 05:43 PM (728 Views)
tomdrobin
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"'Democrats are for a bunch of freeloaders in this world as far as I'm concerned,' said Gari Day, 63, an Avis bus driver from suburban Detroit. 'Republicans make you work for your money, and try to let you keep it.'


These kinds of statement just show how effective the con has become. Getting people to vote against their own financial interests and support the billionaire's tea party.
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That phrasing about the average Republican supporting billionaires became old in it's redundancy about four years ago.

The bus driver, from the bankrupt city of Detroit, is tired of working for a living and seeing his taxes from his meager earnings spread around by the equalizers. He probably is tempted to become a democrat, quit his job and apply for food stamps and welfare. Why should he be the only Republican in Detroit who is working for a living?
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The GOP do represents the interests of the rich and the powerful.

Theyget a bunch of the non rich and powerful to vote for them by exploiting prejudices, bias and fears. A good example is the attitude that those getting food stamps and unemployment are just lazy. They would be bad mouthing all those dead beats on social security too, if it weren't for the fact the geezers are their main audience for the BS they are spreading.
Edited by tomdrobin, Mar 6 2014, 04:50 AM.
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Also a redundant, antiquated slogan used by the left. That and "racist" for anyone disagreeing with president Obama's far left desired policies.
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Mar 6 2014, 04:58 AM
Also a redundant, antiquated slogan used by the left. That and "racist" for anyone disagreeing with president Obama's far left desired policies.
Dog whistle politics, racism disguised.

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What do Cadillac-driving “welfare queens,” a “food stamp president” and the “lazy, dependent and entitled” 47 percent tell us about post-racial America? They’re all examples of a type of coded racism that this week’s guest, Ian Haney López, writes about in his new book, Dog Whistle Politics.

Haney López is an expert in how racism has evolved in America since the civil rights era. Over the past 50 years, politicians have mastered the use of dog whistles – code words that turn Americans against each other while turning the country over to plutocrats. This political tactic, says Haney López, is “the dark magic” by which middle-class voters have been seduced to vote against their own economic interests.

“It comes out of a desire to win votes. And in that sense… It’s racism as a strategy. It’s cold, it’s calculating, it’s considered,” Haney López tells Bill, “it’s the decision to achieve one’s own ends, here winning votes, by stirring racial animosity.”

Ian Haney López, a professor of law at the University of California, Berkeley, is a senior fellow at the policy analysis and advocacy group, Demos.


http://billmoyers.com/episode/ian-haney-lopez-on-the-dog-whistle-politics-of-race/

Give a listen to the interview.
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I talked to a liberal who says he heard one conservative call a liberal an atheist. I suppose to you and most liberals then that what that means is that all conservative think all liberals are atheists.

The president who freed the slaves was a conservative Republican. It wasn't a liberal Democrat... they just picked up on the chorus and have never stopped singing it as if all their policies have done much for black people since they've been freed when in actually, their policies have just grown their lot in life, not lifted them up out of it.
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Mar 6 2014, 05:27 AM
The president who freed the slaves was a conservative Republican.
You got to be kidding. Today he would be declared a rhino. The GOP of today bears little resemblance to Lincoln.

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I find it extrememely hard to believe that Abe Lincoln would be a Republican today since the Republican Party of the 1860s was a completeley different animal than today's conservative GOP. Even though he was a moderate, his party's base of support was in the Northeast/New England and was made up of former Whigs, Free Soilers, Radical Republicans and abolitionists (i.e., America's first "bleeding-heart liberals"). The Democratic Party was the party of "states rights", wealthy plantation owners and slave-holders, and rather arch-conservative elements.

Abe Lincoln first made a name of himself by speaking out against the Mexican-American War in the Illinois legistlature, as a war that was only meant to expand slavery westward (can you say "ANTI-WAR LIBERAL")

Abe Lincoln was also hated in the South (he didn't recieve a SINGLE VOTE in the South!), was even accused to being half-black, even though he was not as radical as some other Republicans.

My question is this: if Abe Lincoln were alive today, what contemporary politician is he most like? I'm guessing a rather mainstream liberal from the Midwest like Russ Feingold....or perphaps even Barack Obama


Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/236992-would-abraham-lincoln-liberal-democrat-today.html#ixzz2v7x8NNPN
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Mar 6 2014, 05:46 AM
Banandangees
Mar 6 2014, 05:27 AM
The president who freed the slaves was a conservative Republican.
You got to be kidding. Today he would be declared a rhino. The GOP of today bears little resemblance to Lincoln.

And the Democrat Party of today bears little resemblance to JFK or Truman. We are probably both right. That is why the chasm between the left and right is so broad and so deep that nothing is getting done, nothing can be agreed to..... because the Parties are at extreme opposite ends of the political spectrum.
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Mar 6 2014, 09:51 AM
tomdrobin
Mar 6 2014, 05:46 AM
Banandangees
Mar 6 2014, 05:27 AM
The president who freed the slaves was a conservative Republican.
You got to be kidding. Today he would be declared a rhino. The GOP of today bears little resemblance to Lincoln.

And the Democrat Party of today bears little resemblance to JFK or Truman. We are probably both right. That is why the chasm between the left and right is so broad and so deep that nothing is getting done, nothing can be agreed to..... because the Parties are at extreme opposite ends of the political spectrum.
That's just not true. The democratic party is far left of the GOP, which is off in right field. But, not that much left of center.

If you believe it is a bunch of socialist leaning liberals, it's because you have been brainwashed from watching too much Fox propaganda.
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As Colo has stated, the interpretation is in the eyes of the beholder. In the case of "brainwashing," my eyes tells me that the brainwashed are on the left. Can you believe that since 1964, the liberals have made the blacks believe that all that social welfare would lift them up out of poverty and actually give them opportunities to be successful and actually be contributors; and, like George Jefferson would actual be in a position to earn their piece of the pie.
But they keep hoping.
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