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| Neutral | Jan 3 2014, 04:13 AM Post #71 |
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Yes he does. |
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| tomdrobin | Jan 3 2014, 05:20 AM Post #72 |
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The ACA mandates what basic coverage must be. If an employer objects to things in the basic coverage than he/she can discontinue providing the insurance and pay the fine/fee. Picking and choosing coverage base upon your own religious beliefs can get crazy. Jehova Witness' don't believe in blood tranfusion. If they employ someone and furnish insurance should they be able to carve out an exception for payment for a blood transfusion? And, what about those who subscribe to faith healing? Here is your faith healing policy employee, just keep praying. |
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| Neutral | Jan 3 2014, 05:21 AM Post #73 |
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Employers are not mandated to do anything at this point, only individuals and Obi extended that. |
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| Banandangees | Jan 3 2014, 05:28 AM Post #74 |
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What word would you use instead of "forced." Under Obamacare law, it was mandated that contraception was to be provided for in health insurance coverage by such institutions (Georgetown). "Contraception" includes "birth control." |
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| Mike | Jan 3 2014, 06:16 AM Post #75 |
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Neal, Of course we want to practice out religion and in doing so we, the church, established schools and hospitals across North america. And these schools and hospitals have been open to those who do not share our faith, we do so in following the leadership and example of our Savior Jesus Christ. I could argue that if the government wants to build new hospitals, schools and universities and fill the niche that the church has filled... then it is free to provide as a sectarian function, any benefits it feels meet those standards. This situation is not something that the employees considered insurmountable when they sought employment, it became an issue when congress passed a law that extended mandates that are objectionable to our belief. I'm quite confident that the supreme court will uphold the injunction. |
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| colo_crawdad | Jan 3 2014, 06:16 AM Post #76 |
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Everyone should keep in mind in this discussion that we are talking about doctor prescribed medications, not over the counter items one can pick up at the grocery store.
Edited by colo_crawdad, Jan 3 2014, 06:19 AM.
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| Mike | Jan 3 2014, 06:23 AM Post #77 |
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I would add to that statement Lowell this...if an insurance policy excludes a prescription drug, that the policy must state such. Not all prescription drugs are required to be included in the Affordable Care Act. |
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| colo_crawdad | Jan 4 2014, 07:18 AM Post #78 |
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I realize that I posted this on another thread thinking that it was on topic followig a post by another member concerning covering birth control pills and condoms. It is more appropriate on this thread. Perhaps a medical explanation of the benefits of birth control pills will serve to be helpful in this discussion.
"protect against certain life-threatening cancers?" Boy, that should never be covered by health insurance policies. ![]() WebMD: Better information. Better health. Edited by colo_crawdad, Jan 4 2014, 07:20 AM.
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| Banandangees | Jan 4 2014, 08:11 AM Post #79 |
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I do believe that the religious affiliated institutions are concerned with the birth altering affects of "contraception." "Contraception" definition: "the deliberate use of artificial methods or other techniques to prevent pregnancy as a consequence of sexual intercourse. The major forms of artificial contraception are barrier methods, of which the most common is the condom; the contraceptive pill, which contains synthetic sex hormones that prevent ovulation in the female; intrauterine devices, such as the coil, which prevent the fertilized ovum from implanting in the uterus; and male or female sterilization" |
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| colo_crawdad | Jan 4 2014, 08:19 AM Post #80 |
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Ban, Surely you are not suggesting that ALL religious institutions are concerned with the birth altering affects of "contraception." It seems to me that to make legislation based on one specific religion would , at the least, border on violating the Constitutional ban on recognizing a State Church. |
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You are exactly right (the bold). That's all I did in my first post. I posted a linked article (that appeared in many news sources), added some of my own opinion regarding the fuss Fluke and the news media made which resulted in here in paranoia, strawmen cases, and name calling from the liberal world on this forum. Nothing I wrote in that original post has been shown to be untrue.

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