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Oh oh!; Justice Blocks Obamacare Birth Control Mandate
Topic Started: Jan 2 2014, 07:51 PM (1,496 Views)
colo_crawdad
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Wow, am I slow or hat. I just realized that Ban said the law requires coverage pf contraception FOR WOMEN. The whole issue about condoms raised by Ban is just a straw man since condoms are contraception devices for MEN.
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I don't write the laws Brew, and I didn't put forth the mandate to temporarily shelf it. I just linked an article of information and added some of my own thoughts on Ms Flute and the fuss she created.
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colo_crawdad
Jan 2 2014, 11:38 PM
Wow, am I slow or hat. I just realized that Ban said the law requires coverage pf contraception FOR WOMEN. The whole issue about condoms raised by Ban is just a straw man since condoms are contraception devices for MEN.
You're distorting again Colo. But you are allowed to do that.
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Jan 2 2014, 11:41 PM
colo_crawdad
Jan 2 2014, 11:38 PM
Wow, am I slow or hat. I just realized that Ban said the law requires coverage pf contraception FOR WOMEN. The whole issue about condoms raised by Ban is just a straw man since condoms are contraception devices for MEN.
You're distorting again Colo. But you are allowed to do that.
What am I "distorting." Ban? I ask this because I do not understand your comment. If I misunderstood you and "distorted," please explain how I did so. You did tell us the law only required contraception FOR WOMEN, didn't you? You also raised the straw man of Ms. Fluke purchasing her own condoms, didn't you?
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Jan 2 2014, 11:40 PM
I don't write the laws Brew, and I didn't put forth the mandate to temporarily shelf it. I just linked an article of information and added some of my own thoughts on Ms Flute and the fuss she created.
Her name is Fluke and what she was testifying about was the use of contraceptives for medical purposes, but you cons seized only on the contraceptives part, which should come as no surprise for anybody who knows the way cons distort nearly everything. The judges injunctive order is very common when laws are imminent and people have questions they would like answered before the law is enforced.
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Banandangees
Jan 2 2014, 11:40 PM
I don't write the laws Brew, and I didn't put forth the mandate to temporarily shelf it. I just linked an article of information and added some of my own thoughts on Ms Flute and the fuss she created.
But promise you'll complain when all these extra rules and exceptions increase the cost of running the system?

And please tell me you'll blame Obama for the overruns.

And make sure you point out the difficulties when somebody needs the pills, and isn't covered. - You can blame that on Obama too.

As I've said before, the US Right complains about the cost of Government and Regulations, but it doesn't prevent them from insisting on more when it suits their ideology.
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Jan 2 2014, 11:46 PM
Banandangees
Jan 2 2014, 11:40 PM
I don't write the laws Brew, and I didn't put forth the mandate to temporarily shelf it. I just linked an article of information and added some of my own thoughts on Ms Flute and the fuss she created.
But promise you'll complain when all these extra rules and exceptions increase the cost of running the system?

And please tell me you'll blame Obama for the overruns.

And make sure you point out the difficulties when somebody needs the pills, and isn't covered. - You can blame that on Obama too.

As I've said before, the US Right complains about the cost of Government and Regulations, but it doesn't prevent them from insisting on more when it suits their ideology.
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colo_crawdad
Jan 2 2014, 11:45 PM
Banandangees
Jan 2 2014, 11:41 PM
colo_crawdad
Jan 2 2014, 11:38 PM
Wow, am I slow or hat. I just realized that Ban said the law requires coverage pf contraception FOR WOMEN. The whole issue about condoms raised by Ban is just a straw man since condoms are contraception devices for MEN.
You're distorting again Colo. But you are allowed to do that.
What am I "distorting." Ban? I ask this because I do not understand your comment. If I misunderstood you and "distorted," please explain how I did so. You did tell us the law only required contraception FOR WOMEN, didn't you? You also raised the straw man of Ms. flute purchasing her own condoms, didn't you?

If you reread my original post you should see that the "condom" suggestion for Ms Fluke was a way around her temporarily being denied contraception for women by requiring her lovers (male presumed) to provide them (thus the suggested contract) or her provide them for them, depending on how urgent she was at the time.

Addendum: Oh, and I can't find where I wrote "that the law only required contraception FOR WOMEN!"
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Jan 2 2014, 11:50 PM
colo_crawdad
Jan 2 2014, 11:45 PM
Banandangees
Jan 2 2014, 11:41 PM
colo_crawdad
Jan 2 2014, 11:38 PM
Wow, am I slow or hat. I just realized that Ban said the law requires coverage pf contraception FOR WOMEN. The whole issue about condoms raised by Ban is just a straw man since condoms are contraception devices for MEN.
You're distorting again Colo. But you are allowed to do that.
What am I "distorting." Ban? I ask this because I do not understand your comment. If I misunderstood you and "distorted," please explain how I did so. You did tell us the law only required contraception FOR WOMEN, didn't you? You also raised the straw man of Ms. flute purchasing her own condoms, didn't you?

If you reread my original post you should see that the "condom" suggestion for Ms Fluke was a way around her temporarily being denied contraception for women by requiring her lovers (male presumed) to provide them (thus the suggested contract) or her provide them for them, depending on how urgent she was at the time.
But, as you and now others have pointed out, her testimony was not about contraceptives for the MALE, condoms, but rather about medically necessary pills sometimes known as "birth control pills." As sosmeone else pointed out on this thread it is apparently you and the cons, not me who is "distorting." But as you said about me: "But you are allowed to do that."
Edited by colo_crawdad, Jan 2 2014, 11:57 PM.
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Jan 2 2014, 11:47 PM
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Jan 2 2014, 11:46 PM
Banandangees
Jan 2 2014, 11:40 PM
I don't write the laws Brew, and I didn't put forth the mandate to temporarily shelf it. I just linked an article of information and added some of my own thoughts on Ms Flute and the fuss she created.
But promise you'll complain when all these extra rules and exceptions increase the cost of running the system?

What has that got to do with the original link and the comments I wrote?

And please tell me you'll blame Obama for the overruns.

And that?

And make sure you point out the difficulties when somebody needs the pills, and isn't covered. - You can blame that on Obama too.

Tell that to the judge. She made the "mandate," not me.

As I've said before, the US Right complains about the cost of Government and Regulations, but it doesn't prevent them from insisting on more when it suits their ideology.

Maybe if the left wouldn't create so many half backed laws that had to be done, we'd save a little money there. But, judges have to make a living too.

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And this is just another example of the cohesive banding of the "Liberals Without Borders" organization so prevalent in our society today.
:bounce: Talk about (colo) strawmen) :33:
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