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Obamacare taxing apparatus
Topic Started: Dec 31 2013, 10:32 PM (756 Views)
Banandangees
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Are all AHC and one payer HC systems loaded with taxes (fees/penaties)?

You can google a number of articles like this on Obamacare taxes from a number of sources, but you won't find many in liberal bent media and we all understand that at a time like the present and the closing in on the mid-terms... but they're there.


How Obamacare Affects businesses - large and small

"ObamaCare includes so many taxes that it's hard to keep track, but one of the worst takes effect on Jan. 1. This beaut is a levy on health insurance premiums that targets the small business and individual markets. (we were hoping that small business could help with our slumped economy and provide more jobs)

At $8 billion in 2014 and $101 billion over the next decade, the insurance tax is larger than ObamaCare's taxes on medical devices and prescription drugs combined. The Internal Revenue Service classifies the tax as a "fee" but it functions like an excise tax on premiums. The IRS collects an annual flat amount specified by the Affordable Care Act to be allocated among the insurers according to market share.
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Over a 1000 pages, you have to wonder what else is there.

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Remember when the libs told us there were NO new taxes?
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I keep waiting for notice that my insurance payments are going down. That is what Obama promised isn't it?

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Dec 31 2013, 11:52 PM
Remember when the libs told us there were NO new taxes?
I don't recall anyone saying that.
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Oh yes they did, even after SCOTUS said it was a tax the libs argued there were not taxes associated with it.
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Jan 1 2014, 01:26 AM
I keep waiting for notice that my insurance payments are going down. That is what Obama promised isn't it?

Lowering health care costs doesn't mean everyone's premiums will go down. It means the per capita cost which is now about the highest in the world won't go up as much as it would if no change happened. Health care costs have been exploding with double digit inflation yearly, far outpacing the general rate of inflation. Saving is slowing those increases. It particularly saves the fed government money as over half of health care dollar are covered by taxpayers (ie; medicare and medicaid).
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Jan 1 2014, 03:18 AM
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Dec 31 2013, 11:52 PM
Remember when the libs told us there were NO new taxes?
I don't recall anyone saying that.
I recall a guy named Bush saying that. Was h a "lib?"
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Oh yes they did, even after SCOTUS said it was a tax the libs argued there were not taxes associated with it.
Your so full of crap. There is the cadillac plan tax, the medical device tax for starters and I'm sure there are many more. The said it doesn't increase the deficit, which is true.
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No they said there were no taxes related to Obamacare. Obi's attorneys argued that it was a tax and you libs still argued it was not.
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No they said there were no taxes related to Obamacare. Obi's attorneys argued that it was a tax and you libs still argued it was not.
Your talking about the fine/tax/fee associated with the individual mandate. Call it what you want. But, it has nothing to do with the other taxes and fees called for by Obamacare that no one has denied.
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