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| Democrats broke Illinois and now trying to break it's constitution too; what is it about Democrats and their inability to manage spending? | |
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| Mountainrivers | Dec 31 2013, 02:02 AM Post #51 |
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Yes, the same people who complain that Canadians shouldn't comment on US affairs since they can't vote here. Hypocrisy at its worst. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 31 2013, 02:05 AM Post #52 |
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I guess it takes liberals like myself to actually believe in State and local control without interfernce from outside ideological right wingers. |
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| Banandangees | Dec 31 2013, 02:08 AM Post #53 |
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Is it wrong to have an opinion when it is related to the nation as a whole? The nation and each state (to a varying degree) has the same financial problems as Illinois. You guys are masters of diversion when you don't want an opinion ventured on something you imagine is negative to "liberalism," and I suppose you imagine Illinois, being a Democrat State for near forever, does not shed a good light on financial management. I mean, look at Brew, Sea and Telco, from another country no less, offering their opinions on how the US does things. I don't see you local libs ever making a suggestion that they "should listen to their own voters and duly elected legislators, not to out of State/nation right/left wing ideologues who cannot even vote in the States/nation" and should essentially mind their own business because they can't vote here, effect any changes here, pay taxes here... nothing but visit here. Why is that? Or, is it the old left wing double standard? |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 31 2013, 02:12 AM Post #54 |
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So, Ban, you think our belief that those not a voter in a State or locality should stay the hell out of their politics is a "diversion.?" I think the diversion is the arrogance of the hypocritical right wing ideologues who think they ought to impose their ideology on others. After all, that is the real issue here. |
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| Mountainrivers | Dec 31 2013, 02:13 AM Post #55 |
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No, it's the right wing double standard of criticizing Canadians when they can't vote here, then presuming to tell another state what to do about their affairs when they can't vote there. As far as Illinois is concerned, they screwed it up, they should fix it. However, I haven't seen anyone explain exactly how Illinois got so screwed up. It had to have been a combination of things, not just simply going on a spending spree. |
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| Neutral | Dec 31 2013, 02:54 AM Post #56 |
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MR and Colo are making a totally ignorant argument, as citizens of this country we have the right to speak to any state's problems, especially when our federal government is trying to take us down the same road to insolvency. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 31 2013, 03:04 AM Post #57 |
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MR, Is it only the liberals in this country that are able to recognize the difference between having a right to do something and doing what is right? |
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| Banandangees | Dec 31 2013, 03:05 AM Post #58 |
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But you don't apply the same "rules" to other liberals and some who offer their criticisms who aren't even of this country. That's sort of hypocritical don't you think? I do, not that they offer their criticism, but the fact that you don't call them on it as you do here. Do you consider Brew, Sea and Telco as arrogant for not "staying the hell out of our politics?" You've never comment on it. What's the difference? The only thing I can think of since there is not real logical answer that's not hypocritical is that you honor or give immunity to liberal foreigners as members of the "Liberals Without Borders." Now that I understand. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 31 2013, 03:10 AM Post #59 |
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BIG DIFFERENCE, Ban. The Canadians do not spend money attempting to influence our policies. The US Right wing ideologues spend BIG MONEY in attempting to influence policies in States and localities in which they do not live nor have any vote. Edited by colo_crawdad, Dec 31 2013, 03:11 AM.
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| Banandangees | Dec 31 2013, 03:22 AM Post #60 |
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I didn't criticize the Canadians for their criticism. I asked Colo (and any other Lefty who feels the way Colo does) why he makes the criticism of the "Righties" commenting on Illinois in this Illinois thread and not doing the same for our Canadian liberal friends when they make criticism of US happenings? |
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