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Democrats broke Illinois and now trying to break it's constitution too; what is it about Democrats and their inability to manage spending?
Topic Started: Dec 30 2013, 12:39 AM (1,207 Views)
Berton
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I bet a long list could be made up if we tried.

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tomdrobin
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Here is an extensive discussion of the public pension problem in Illinois. It is quite long but a good read if your interested in facts over propaganda.

One interesting note in the article.

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Against that backdrop, an array of labor groups pushed to add pension protections to the convention agenda. In what might seem ironic given today's political sensibilities, the four principal sponsors who put together the pension proposal were all Republicans.

They included Kinney, later a DuPage County judge; Anthony Peccarelli, that county's future chief judge and state's attorney; Henry Green, a land developer from Urbana; and Donald Zeglis, a lawyer and education advocate from Kankakee County. All are now dead.


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-09-22/news/ct-met-public-pensions-1970-20130923_1_pension-clause-pension-debate-constitutional-convention/2
Edited by tomdrobin, Jan 1 2014, 04:15 AM.
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Really? LOL You are really trying to blame Reps for Chicago's pension problem?
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Really? LOL You are really trying to blame Reps for Chicago's pension problem?
Read the article if your interested in the facts (ie; causes). If you just want to blame it on libs or Obama then continue on with your spin validated beliefs.
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I don't have to read your article, I know who is in control in Chicago.
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tomdrobin
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Keeping it simple. It's all the fault of them dems, libs and Obama. :sarcasim:

If a con/Rep had anything to do with it, then by golly he must have been a rino. :sarcasim:

The GOP and their propaganda network plays the loonies like a philharmonic. :teeth:
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For anyone to say Chicago is not under total Dem control is as ignorant as it gets. Hello Tom.
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tomdrobin
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Those four GOP's that authored the constitutional proposal must have been rinos. Right?

Under the bus they go along with that lib Bush II.

When are you going to learn that fiscal irresponsibility isn't just a dem/lib thing?
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tomdrobin
Jan 1 2014, 04:14 AM
Here is an extensive discussion of the public pension problem in Illinois. It is quite long but a good read if your interested in facts over propaganda.

One interesting note in the article.

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Against that backdrop, an array of labor groups pushed to add pension protections to the convention agenda. In what might seem ironic given today's political sensibilities, the four principal sponsors who put together the pension proposal were all Republicans.

They included Kinney, later a DuPage County judge; Anthony Peccarelli, that county's future chief judge and state's attorney; Henry Green, a land developer from Urbana; and Donald Zeglis, a lawyer and education advocate from Kankakee County. All are now dead.


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-09-22/news/ct-met-public-pensions-1970-20130923_1_pension-clause-pension-debate-constitutional-convention/2

In the words of our next-to-be president, Hillary Clinton, "What difference does it make?"


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A decade or more ago, Canadian liberals made fiscal conservative decisions to lift Canada out of there fiscal problems.

In Illinois, in 1970, (4) Republicans made fiscal liberal decisions to satisfy a Democrat electorate base that helped put Illinois into their fiscal deficit.



Fiscal conservative policies that exceed social expenditures = balance, reduced deficits or surplus. Makes no difference who makes the decisions.

Liberal social programs that exceed fiscal conservative policies = deficits = Illinois. Makes no difference who makes the decisions.



William Jefferson Clinton, a liberal Democrat in his second term, made fiscally conservative decisions (with Congress) that left with a surplus.

George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, made fiscally liberal policies (with Congress) that left with a deficit.

Barack H. Obama, a liberal Democrat, is making liberal social policies that exceed fiscal policies that are deepening the deficit.
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Question. Has Neut attempted to falsely claim that four Republicans did not author that Illinois constitutional Amendment?
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