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| tomdrobin | Jan 1 2014, 04:17 AM Post #81 |
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Says the man who claims libs declared no new taxes under Obamcare, but wait that was Bush I, read my lips dummie.
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| Neutral | Jan 1 2014, 04:18 AM Post #82 |
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Bush had nothing to do with Obicare stupid. I guess you're trying to divert now. |
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| tomdrobin | Jan 1 2014, 04:22 AM Post #83 |
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It went right over you head. Do I have to explain it? A famous quote from Bush I, "read my lips, no new taxes". BTW no one said that about Obamacare, not libs, not Obama. |
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| Neutral | Jan 1 2014, 04:24 AM Post #84 |
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I know what Bush said, duh. I know what you libs said about Obicare and taxes too. Go back and look. |
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| tomdrobin | Jan 1 2014, 04:40 AM Post #85 |
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Libs and Obama said it wasn't going to raise the deficit. Your claim they said no new taxes is incorrect. Still sticking with it? Man you are stubborn. |
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| Neutral | Jan 1 2014, 04:47 AM Post #86 |
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You can't even follow your own posts. lol |
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| tomdrobin | Jan 1 2014, 04:51 AM Post #87 |
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Arguing with Nuet. It's like wrestling with a pig. You both get really dirty, and the pig loves it.
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| Mountainrivers | Jan 1 2014, 05:01 AM Post #88 |
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Neut's idea of an argument is making one or two meaningless comments. On this thread alone, he posted 14 one-liners and 7 two liners, none of which contributed anything to the argument. |
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| Brewster | Jan 1 2014, 05:03 AM Post #89 |
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Be gentle prodding Neut with too much truth, guys - he's still a Virgin.
Edited by Brewster, Jan 1 2014, 05:14 AM.
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| Berton | Jan 1 2014, 05:54 AM Post #90 |
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How much experience do you have in running the national electrical gird Mike? That is what this information is about and how Solar hurts it and drives up costs. You might want to read about it and learn something. "The severe output swings have even reached the point where Germany’s grid physically cannot operate without relying on neighboring countries to soak up the variability. The ramp-down of solar output in the evening happens faster than the rest of Germany’s generation capacity can ramp-up. (Massive power plants can’t change output very quickly.) Which either means blackouts as people get home from work, or using non-solar-powered neighbors as buffers. Here’s one day’s generation profile for German solar power, showing how net electricity imports/exports are forced to oscillate back and forth to smooth out the swings in production: [21] If Germany’s neighbors also had as many solar panels, they would all be trying to export and import at the same time, and the system would fall apart. The maximum capacity of the entire EU grid to utilize solar power is therefore much lower than the level reached by individual countries like Germany and Spain. Solar boosters often say people need to shift their energy consumption habits to match generation, instead of making generation match consumption. That’s feasible, to an extent — perhaps 20% of power consumption can be time-shifted, mostly by rescheduling large consumers currently operating at night like aluminum electrosmelters. But modern civilization revolves around a particular work/sleep schedule, and you can’t honestly expect to change that. People aren’t going to give up cooking and TV in the evening, or wait three hours after the sun goes down to turn on the lights. And weekends have radically different consumption profiles from weekdays. It all adds up. PV solar output doesn’t properly sync up with power demand. That severely limits the maximum percentage of our electricity needs it can provide. Germany hit that limit at about 4%. They are now finding out what happens when you try to push further." |
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