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I wonder; death of long term unemployment insurance
Topic Started: Dec 27 2013, 09:35 AM (723 Views)
Mountainrivers
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Dec 29 2013, 01:39 AM
If there are 4 million job openings today and if the economy is getting so much better as liberals claim it is then the jobs will be there nation wide.

Explain how 11 million people can fill 4 million jobs. And even though the economy is getting better, it will be a long time before it produces 7 million more job openings and people are losing jobs every day somewhere.
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I already told you. Only 1.5 (actually 1.3) million people will be effected by the end of the extension of the unemployment benefit.

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Dec 29 2013, 01:48 AM
I already told you. Only 1.5 (actually 1.3) million people will be effected by the end of the extension of the unemployment benefit.

But there will be another 5 million or so next year. And you need to explain how you know whether or not a job requires special training and if it is anywhere near where an applicant lives.
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I know as much about that as you know about the number of people who will be effected the next year. I know that there are voc-tech schools all over the country and that states fund training in them for the unemployed. I also know that you are talking about the exception to the rule, not the norm. Are you going to change this discussion into another challenge and insult?

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Dec 29 2013, 02:02 AM
I know as much about that as you know about the number of people who will be effected the next year. I know that there are voc-tech schools all over the country and that states fund training in them for the unemployed. I also know that you are talking about the exception to the rule, not the norm. Are you going to change this discussion into another challenge and insult?

I got that number from here: Source

Even if someone has the mental and physical skills needed to attend a training class, which is questionable, it takes time for that training. How do you know that it is the exception and not the norm? No, I only challenge you to provide evidence of what you say.

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Dec 29 2013, 02:13 AM
Berton
Dec 29 2013, 02:02 AM
I know as much about that as you know about the number of people who will be effected the next year. I know that there are voc-tech schools all over the country and that states fund training in them for the unemployed. I also know that you are talking about the exception to the rule, not the norm. Are you going to change this discussion into another challenge and insult?

I got that number from here: Source

Even if someone has the mental and physical skills needed to attend a training class, which is questionable, it takes time for that training. How do you know that it is the exception and not the norm? No, I only challenge you to provide evidence of what you say.

Yes, as usual you challenge but do not back up your thoughts with offical government sources.

If you think yours is not the exception then give us some numbers which prove it. What percentage of the 4 million jobs are high tech jobs? How many are management jobs? How many are lower level jobs which either do not require training or provide on the job training?



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Dec 29 2013, 02:24 AM
Mountainrivers
Dec 29 2013, 02:13 AM
Berton
Dec 29 2013, 02:02 AM
I know as much about that as you know about the number of people who will be effected the next year. I know that there are voc-tech schools all over the country and that states fund training in them for the unemployed. I also know that you are talking about the exception to the rule, not the norm. Are you going to change this discussion into another challenge and insult?

I got that number from here: Source

Even if someone has the mental and physical skills needed to attend a training class, which is questionable, it takes time for that training. How do you know that it is the exception and not the norm? No, I only challenge you to provide evidence of what you say.

Yes, as usual you challenge but do not back up your thoughts with offical government sources.

If you think yours is not the exception then give us some numbers which prove it. What percentage of the 4 million jobs are high tech jobs? How many are management jobs? How many are lower level jobs which either do not require training or provide on the job training?



You can accept the source or not. I don't care. I doubt the information you are asking for is available, but you are permitted to look for it if you choose. You are the one making the claim that those people can find jobs. Prove it.
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I don't have to prove it. People are finding jobs all the time. People have found jobs. That is a know fact. If the information I as for is not available then you have nothing to base your assumptions on.
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Dec 29 2013, 02:39 AM
I don't have to prove it. People are finding jobs all the time. People have found jobs. That is a know fact. If the information I as for is not available then you have nothing to base your assumptions on.
Yes, but 11 million people can't fill 4 million jobs. What assumptions?
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What 11 million? We have gone through that before. It is 1.3 million. Why are you bringing it up again?

The assumption that people need training before they can find a job and that they are not the exception.
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