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Amazon and others overwhelmed capacity of delivery companies; the end of retail shopping as we knew it
Topic Started: Dec 27 2013, 03:46 AM (667 Views)
Berton
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Dec 27 2013, 09:22 AM
Damn I just realized, Colo took this thread completely off grid with his post.

Surly that does not surprise you Pat. That is his MO.

Back to the subject. I think they may stick around but like you said with a smaller footprint. Don't forget that most if not all of them have on line ordering. Many with next day pickup at the store. Also the nice point that you can actually see the product and judge how well it is made and performs. You can't do that with Amazon.

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Dec 27 2013, 10:38 PM
Pat
Dec 27 2013, 09:22 AM
Damn I just realized, Colo took this thread completely off grid with his post.

Surly that does not surprise you Pat. That is his MO.

Back to the subject. I think they may stick around but like you said with a smaller footprint. Don't forget that most if not all of them have on line ordering. Many with next day pickup at the store. Also the nice point that you can actually see the product and judge how well it is made and performs. You can't do that with Amazon.

I notice that Berton just could not control himself and avoid taking a personal shot. Nothing surprising there. That, after all, is his standard MO,
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Dec 27 2013, 09:21 AM
If UPS and FedEx would have known they would have been prepared, Obi knew what was coming, actually they thought more would come to the site than did so it was more of a boondoggle.
When Beyonce released her album two weeks ago, she crashed iTunes. An established site with years of online presence. You are either naive or plain ignorant to think the healthcare site would fare better than itunes
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:cigar: You're funny Cappy.
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Dec 28 2013, 01:24 AM
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Dec 27 2013, 09:21 AM
If UPS and FedEx would have known they would have been prepared, Obi knew what was coming, actually they thought more would come to the site than did so it was more of a boondoggle.
When Beyonce released her album two weeks ago, she crashed iTunes. An established site with years of online presence. You are either naive or plain ignorant to think the healthcare site would fare better than itunes
Maybe just playing at being obtuse as he once claimed under the same persona and a different screen name?
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Keep me on ignore loser. You posted under a different name for years.
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Dec 27 2013, 09:47 AM
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Dec 27 2013, 09:21 AM
I don't agree Brew. There was nothing wrong with the delivery system except under estimating the capacity needed this last week of the season. The aircraft worked, the trucks worked, the workers and 50,000 plus extras worked. Now list all that has worked with the rollout of Obamacare.
The list is long, Pat. But the biggest success is for the first time, millions of Americans have hope.

Two million have registered already - they're well on their way to pass their original objective of seven million, as the acceptance climb is accelerating fast right now. The last couple of delays were not because of bugs, but because of the vast increase in traffic that the private insurers can't handle - people WANT Obamacare!

And don't give me the usual Right Wing spin about how many of those haven't made their first payment yet - those people didn't go through the process just for finger exercises. (That's like the nonsense that unemployment is much higher than the official number because some Right Winger made up some guess about how many have "given up". The measurement hasn't changed, only a bunch of Rightwingers wanting to raise the bar.)

But the ACA is not just the website - there are many pieces that have been in operation for a year or two already and running well, like coverage for children up to 26 years of age, consolidation of records, lowering costs of health care, etc.

Here's a Video to watch - Obamacare Successes.
Online sales have been growing for years, and this season, the rise during the weekend before Christmas was extremely steep, up 37 percent, according to IBM Digital Analytics Benchmark. FedEx said that it had predicted it would deliver 22 million packages on its busiest day this year — double the volume in 2007.

As I said, apples and oranges.

Brew, the latest figures i read pegged the number who have made a premium payment at 5% nationwide. And most of the two million touted are joining medicaid. I believe that number is 90%.

As the program stumbles into the new year with periods that the websites are down, Oregon has signed up under 250. But setting all this aside, the true test will come when people begin experiencing the affects of higher premiums combined with high deductibles. The law is now set and i don't see a path towards repealing it, it reminds me of the Bush Jr. problem in Iraq, he broke it and the job then becomes trying to put it back together again. We can only hope the loss in lives and ruined families are kept to a minimal. Anybody that is touting this law as a success or great accomplishment is either ignoring the problem now and those ahead or spinning.
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" We can only hope the loss in lives and ruined families are kept to a minimal. Anybody that is touting this law as a success or great accomplishment is either ignoring the problem now and those ahead or spinning."

The end justifies the means, for the liberals. Sacrifice many for the few. That's progressive liberalism.
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Dec 28 2013, 06:06 AM
" We can only hope the loss in lives and ruined families are kept to a minimal. Anybody that is touting this law as a success or great accomplishment is either ignoring the problem now and those ahead or spinning."

The end justifies the means, for the liberals. Sacrifice many for the few. That's progressive liberalism.
"Sacrifice many for the few"

There's the motto of the brain-washed right wing. As Ban says, sacrifice the many poor for the wealthy few.
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Online sales have been growing for years, and this season, the rise during the weekend before Christmas was extremely steep, up 37 percent, according to IBM Digital Analytics Benchmark. FedEx said that it had predicted it would deliver 22 million packages on its busiest day this year — double the volume in 2007

Thanks Pat, you just proved my point.

Online sales didn't just spring up overnight, they've been on an exponentially growing curve for years. And yet Private Enterprise couldn't handle exactly what the US Right says they're best at.

Obamacare is moving along well now, after a terrible start. And nor, 90% were NOT signing up for Medicare/Medicaid.

And all the US Right has is the same old rubbish they've been spouting about Obama since he took office.

I can't believe you fell - twice, in spite of my warning - for that only "5% have paid" line - as I said before, do you really think people just went through the exercise of registering because they thought it was a video game?

Time to take off those blinkers.
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