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The Law of Perpetual Amendments
Topic Started: Dec 22 2013, 06:12 PM (1,350 Views)
Pat
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I don't know of any authority that allows him to do so Berton, it's certainly not in the constitution or a supreme court precedent. I think my earlier posts are probably pretty close to the truth.

I just read on Yahoo about yet another Democrat Senator warning his party that this could spell disaster for next years elections and lose their majority in the senate. But we already figured that one out, he must just now being given that assessment by his staff.

I say sit back and watch from a seat perched in the peanut gallery. For added fun hold up a banner that reads "I TOLD YOU SO"

Obama said this week that 1,000,000 have signed up, now of course that doesn't mean that 1,000,000 paid for a policy. Once the public begins experiencing the truth then the real fireworks will begin. This event and the rollout in general are but a small inkling of what's to come. Tick, tick, tick
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Dec 23 2013, 03:28 AM
I don't know of any authority that allows him to do so Berton, it's certainly not in the constitution or a supreme court precedent. I think my earlier posts are probably pretty close to the truth.

I just read on Yahoo about yet another Democrat Senator warning his party that this could spell disaster for next years elections and lose their majority in the senate. But we already figured that one out, he must just now being given that assessment by his staff.

I say sit back and watch from a seat perched in the peanut gallery. For added fun hold up a banner that reads "I TOLD YOU SO"

Obama said this week that 1,000,000 have signed up, now of course that doesn't mean that 1,000,000 paid for a policy. Once the public begins experiencing the truth then the real fireworks will begin. This event and the rollout in general are but a small inkling of what's to come. Tick, tick, tick
Yes, and if the Democrats act like the Republicans, elections will b e their only concern. "To hell with the Country" is the Republican mantra. I do hope the Democrats do not adopt it..
Edited by colo_crawdad, Dec 23 2013, 03:48 AM.
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Dec 23 2013, 03:47 AM
Pat
Dec 23 2013, 03:28 AM
I don't know of any authority that allows him to do so Berton, it's certainly not in the constitution or a supreme court precedent. I think my earlier posts are probably pretty close to the truth.

I just read on Yahoo about yet another Democrat Senator warning his party that this could spell disaster for next years elections and lose their majority in the senate. But we already figured that one out, he must just now being given that assessment by his staff.

I say sit back and watch from a seat perched in the peanut gallery. For added fun hold up a banner that reads "I TOLD YOU SO"

Obama said this week that 1,000,000 have signed up, now of course that doesn't mean that 1,000,000 paid for a policy. Once the public begins experiencing the truth then the real fireworks will begin. This event and the rollout in general are but a small inkling of what's to come. Tick, tick, tick
Yes, and if the Democrats act like the Republicans, elections will b e their only concern. "To hell with the Country" is the Republican mantra. I do hope the Democrats do not adopt it..
I think your hope will not be rewarded my friend. We are talking politicians here. few escape the lure of power and graft.
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I am absolutely astounded at the hypocrisy of the Right.

ACA had many bugs, and the US Right howled happily about that.

In response, Obama & Co are gradually correcting what they can with a series of permanent and temporary fixes.

So now the US Right howls about that.

And of course, at no point do they come up with any ideas of their own.

It sounds like the plot for some second rate comedy.
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The only ones who were and are "happy" about Obamacare are the left wing progressives and even some of them are bailing out as fast as they can.

Obama is changing the law without Congress voting to make the change. It may be acceptble in Canada for the PM to change the law of the land without a vote in Congress but it is not acceptable for the President to make law by himself.

The right not only came up with ideas they voted on them and passed them in the House of Representatives. Obama would not consider them and Reed would not allow the Senate to vote on them.

I agree the game plan of the left wing progressives does sound like a second rage comedy which might be funny if it they were not running the county.

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Dec 23 2013, 04:36 AM
I am absolutely astounded at the hypocrisy of the Right.

ACA had many bugs, and the US Right howled happily about that.

In response, Obama & Co are gradually correcting what they can with a series of permanent and temporary fixes.

So now the US Right howls about that.

And of course, at no point do they come up with any ideas of their own.

It sounds like the plot for some second rate comedy.
Get your facts straight Brew. And nice spin attempt.

When the right howled about the impending problems of ACa and wanted a year long delay or year long slow rollout, Obama and democrats said no and used the protest by conservatives as a means to try to kill off the tea party and politically damage the right. Fast forward to the actual roll out and as it became apparent that what the conservatives were yelling about was in fact occurring, democrat lawmakers in fear of their political lives began demanding Obama do what? Delay implementation and change things. The conservatives are now sitting in the peanut gallery, they figure the best way to end the madness is to let Obama and the left sink the ship. Next election cycle is going to be a bloodbath for the left. Stay tuned.
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Talk about spin!

The Right wanted a year delay on the rollout so they could kill it. It had nothing to do with fixing bugs. Just one more form of Obstructionism.

They have NEVER suggested anything to fix the problems.

And now you and others on the Right are busy exaggerating the number and size of the problems, and the number of Dems running scared. All while wearing a sh*t eating grin.

In any case, what would you do if it was put on hold? There is no backup plan, particularly on the Right.

The attitude that comes across is that you'd rather destroy the country than see Obama succeed at anything.

Pat, I think it's time for your 15,000 mile reality check...
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Dec 23 2013, 08:51 AM
Talk about spin!

The Right wanted a year delay on the rollout so they could kill it. It had nothing to do with fixing bugs. Just one more form of Obstructionism.

They have NEVER suggested anything to fix the problems.

And now you and others on the Right are busy exaggerating the number and size of the problems, and the number of Dems running scared. All while wearing a sh*t eating grin.

In any case, what would you do if it was put on hold? There is no backup plan, particularly on the Right.

The attitude that comes across is that you'd rather destroy the country than see Obama succeed at anything.

Pat, I think it's time for your 15,000 mile reality check...
I am continually amazed at how perceptive some of the Canadians are. They readily recognize the truth behind the Right Wing spin. It is almost as if they have been through such an encounter before.
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Right Wing spin is easily spotted - and very predictable - on any subject.

And as for being through Health Care encounters, yes we did, Colo.

I cannot think of a single argument about Universal Health Care in the US that I didn't hear in Canada over 50 years ago. And every silly reason for delay.

And as someone who rolled out several major software systems in my career, I think I've seen every form of glitch imaginable - and never once found one that wasn't curable as we went along.

On Edit: And for all the screams we heard at time, by now any Government in Canada which tried to kill the Health Care system would be promptly turfed.
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Dec 23 2013, 08:41 AM
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Dec 23 2013, 04:36 AM
I am absolutely astounded at the hypocrisy of the Right.

ACA had many bugs, and the US Right howled happily about that.

Isn't it something how the Left uses words like, "bugs," "miscues," "tweaking" to describe major "blunders" and constant "amending" in describing the design and implementation of Obamacare?

In response, Obama & Co are gradually correcting what they can with a series of permanent and temporary fixes.

and they use words like "gradually" where "constantly" would be more appropriate and "correcting" where "changing" laws are concerned.

So now the US Right howls about that.

Well, somebody has to try to have a sense of humor about all this well designed, and implemented, ever changing Obama legacy law. Have you ever seen anything like it? Besides, it makes the Canadians edgy and blind to all that's going on in Canada.... for the ones who winter in Canada that is, which is another laugher.

And of course, at no point do they come up with any ideas of their own.

Obama doesn't listen to ideas, he's got it all in is head.

It sounds like the plot for some second rate comedy.

The comedy is watching the Libs squirm over their "dream-come-true" leader trying to right his over wrong law. The gov. has run out of erasers.

Get your facts straight Brew. And nice spin attempt.

When the right howled about the impending problems of ACa and wanted a year long delay or year long slow rollout, Obama and democrats said no and used the protest by conservatives as a means to try to kill off the tea party and politically damage the right. Fast forward to the actual roll out and as it became apparent that what the conservatives were yelling about was in fact occurring, democrat lawmakers in fear of their political lives began demanding Obama do what? Delay implementation and change things. The conservatives are now sitting in the peanut gallery, they figure the best way to end the madness is to let Obama and the left sink the ship. Next election cycle is going to be a bloodbath for the left. Stay tuned.

"I am continually amazed at how perceptive some of the Canadians are. :smile: They readily recognize the truth behind the Right Wing spin. It is almost as if they have been through such an encounter before." (they have, when Martin and Harper used fiscal conservative measures to pull them out of their financial doldrums and as soon as they can, they're going to get that idiot Harper out of their lives and really go liberal. If Greece can do it Canada can do it... and it shouldn't be hard, they've been there before. If Brew can remember 50 years ago when Canada's ACA was born, he can certainly remember how the fiscal libs spent Canada's way into hock 25 years or so ago.)

Yeah, liberal Canadians are very, very perceptive. You'd swear that they are in direct contact with Obama on a daily basis.... the Congress should be so lucky. And, who knows more about just about everything than liberal Canadians, like they all have PhDs in multiple fu.

You know what amazes me? It's how liberals stick together on just about every debatable topic.... as if they are all related and must protect one another from anything "unliberal." They should be called "Liberals Without Borders"
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