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| Neutral | Dec 22 2013, 09:18 AM Post #21 |
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You would think a debate coach worth his salt would have known that. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 22 2013, 10:21 AM Post #22 |
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Sounds like good old fashioned critical thinking skills rather than a "logical fallacy." Maybe that another new and wonderful definition by ye old right wing. Critical thinkers will always give preference to factual NEWS articles over op-ed pieces in biased left or right wing blogs. See, I knew I was not related in any way to Berton. |
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| Neutral | Dec 22 2013, 10:23 AM Post #23 |
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Keep digging Colo. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 22 2013, 11:30 AM Post #24 |
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Perhaps I can help Berton to better understand just what a "genetic fallacy" is. Fallacy: Genetic Fallacy
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| Berton | Dec 22 2013, 11:56 AM Post #25 |
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The genetic fallacy, also known as fallacy of origins, fallacy of virtue,[1] is a fallacy of irrelevance where a conclusion is suggested based solely on something or someone's origin rather than its current meaning or context. This overlooks any difference to be found in the present situation, typically transferring the positive or negative esteem from the earlier context. The fallacy therefore fails to assess the claim on its merit. The first criterion of a good argument is that the premises must have bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim in question.[2] Genetic accounts of an issue may be true, and they may help illuminate the reasons why the issue has assumed its present form, but they are irrelevant to its merits.[3] According to the Oxford Companion to Philosophy (1995), the term originated in Morris Raphael Cohen and Ernest Nagel's book Logic and Scientific Method[4] (1934). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 22 2013, 12:32 PM Post #26 |
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If Berton's source is better tan mine and if he is correct in his own interpretation, then ALL of the attacks on MediaMatters by the lU.S. right wing on this forum have been nothing more than genetic fallacies. I'll bet that Neural will thank Berton for that conclusion. LOL |
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| Berton | Dec 22 2013, 12:36 PM Post #27 |
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Pay back is hell isn't it Colo_crawdad? |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 22 2013, 01:10 PM Post #28 |
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Is it, Berton? You are the one who just argued against the primary argument of the right wing on this forum. Did you and the rest of the right enjoy the payback? Personally, I disagree with your interpretationor misinterpretation, of genetic fallacies ass did the source I linked. You can bend the definition to attempt to fit your needs and in the process defeat most of the right wing arguments here concerning "left wig" or "lib" sources if you want. But, in the process you either defeat your buddies' arguments or become hypocritical. Becoming hypocritical would be SOP for you and most of the right wing posters here. Do enjoy the payback, Berton, not how bitter you find it. |
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| Berton | Dec 22 2013, 08:33 PM Post #29 |
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More argumentum ad hominem from Colo_crawdad. What he and the left wing do when they do not want to discuss the subject. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 22 2013, 10:01 PM Post #30 |
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Oh, I see. It is mpt argumentum ad hominem when you claim that the payback is all mine, but not it is when I reverse the claim and apply it to you. SOP for the hypocritical right wing ideologists. |
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