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For global warming believers, 2013 was the year from Hell; Almost everything that could go wrong did go wrong for the cause of global warming
Topic Started: Dec 20 2013, 09:55 PM (2,231 Views)
Berton
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Mountainrivers
Dec 21 2013, 06:01 AM
Berton
Dec 21 2013, 05:59 AM
Since neither telcoman or Brewster can show that Gore did not make that statement in 2008 to a German TV audience we shall show that one as true and go on to the next one.

"Weather between the poles has also conspired to make the global warming believers look bad. In December, U.S. weather stations reported over 2000 record cold and snow days. Almost 60% of the U.S. was covered in snow, twice as much as last year. The heavens even opened up in the Holy Land, where an awestruck citizenry saw 16 inches of snow fall in Jerusalem, almost three feet in its environs. Snow blanketed Cairo for the first time in more than 100 years."

True or false?

That's weather, not climate.

Then so has been every one of Brewster's examples.

But is it true or false?

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Brewster
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I guess lying is like eating potato chips.

You can't stop at just one...
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Berton
Dec 21 2013, 06:04 AM
Mountainrivers
Dec 21 2013, 06:01 AM
Berton
Dec 21 2013, 05:59 AM
Since neither telcoman or Brewster can show that Gore did not make that statement in 2008 to a German TV audience we shall show that one as true and go on to the next one.

"Weather between the poles has also conspired to make the global warming believers look bad. In December, U.S. weather stations reported over 2000 record cold and snow days. Almost 60% of the U.S. was covered in snow, twice as much as last year. The heavens even opened up in the Holy Land, where an awestruck citizenry saw 16 inches of snow fall in Jerusalem, almost three feet in its environs. Snow blanketed Cairo for the first time in more than 100 years."

True or false?

That's weather, not climate.

Then so has been every one of Brewster's examples.

But is it true or false?

I assume the data is true. I saw it on the news. The commentary accompanying it , I don't know.
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Berton, admit you lied about what Gore said, and maybe this conversation could continue.

Not that I really care about Gore, but there's a point to be made.

Man up, tell the truth for once.
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Mountainrivers
Dec 21 2013, 06:06 AM
Berton
Dec 21 2013, 06:04 AM
Mountainrivers
Dec 21 2013, 06:01 AM
Berton
Dec 21 2013, 05:59 AM
Since neither telcoman or Brewster can show that Gore did not make that statement in 2008 to a German TV audience we shall show that one as true and go on to the next one.

"Weather between the poles has also conspired to make the global warming believers look bad. In December, U.S. weather stations reported over 2000 record cold and snow days. Almost 60% of the U.S. was covered in snow, twice as much as last year. The heavens even opened up in the Holy Land, where an awestruck citizenry saw 16 inches of snow fall in Jerusalem, almost three feet in its environs. Snow blanketed Cairo for the first time in more than 100 years."

True or false?

That's weather, not climate.

Then so has been every one of Brewster's examples.

But is it true or false?

I assume the data is true. I saw it on the news. The commentary accompanying it , I don't know.
There was no commentary included in what I ask about. Thank you for saying that the data was correct.

Now we can move on to the next one:

"2013 marks the 17th year of no warming on the planet. It marks the first time that James Hansen, Al Gore’s guru and the one whose predictions set off the global warming scare, admitted that warming had stopped. It marks the first time that major media enforcers of the orthodoxy — the Economist, Reuters and the London Telegraph – admitted that the science was not settled on global warming, the Economist even mocking the scientists’ models by putting them on “negative watch.” Scientific predictions of global cooling – until recently mostly shunned in the academic press for fear of being labeled crackpot – were published and publicized by no less than the BBC, a broadcaster previously unmatched in the anthropogenic apocalyptic media."

True or false?

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Berton just can't tell the truth about anything. And can NEVER admit he's wrong.

Warming isn't anywhere near stopping, as has been proven repeatedly.

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Global Warming Since 1997 Underestimated by Half

A new study by British and Canadian researchers shows that the global temperature rise of the past 15 years has been greatly underestimated. The reason is the data gaps in the weather station network, especially in the Arctic. If you fill these data gaps using satellite measurements, the warming trend is more than doubled in the widely used HadCRUT4 data, and the much-discussed “warming pause” has virtually disappeared.
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Argumentum ad petitionem principii

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Dec 21 2013, 06:36 AM
Argumentum ad petitionem principii

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petitio principii
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If Bertie ever apologizes, will somebody let me know?

I've had it - again.
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Since no one has shown the last part false we shall go on to the next one:

"2013 was likewise bleak for businesses banking on global warming. Layoffs and bankruptcies continued to mount for European and North American companies producing solar panels and wind turbines, as did their pleas for subsidies to fight off what they labelled unfair competition from Chinese firms. Starting in 2013, though, their excuses have been wearing thin. China’s Suntech, the world’s largest solar panel manufacturer, has now filed for bankruptcy, as has LDK Solar, another major firm. Sinovel, China’s largest manufacturers of wind turbines and the world second largest, reported it lost $100-million after its revenues plunged 60%, and it is now closing plants in Canada, the U.S., and Europe."

True or false?

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