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How does this site look for being factual and unbiased on gun control?
Topic Started: Dec 16 2013, 08:16 AM (1,134 Views)
donsm60
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Ok, without being a d-head with what I’m really thinking you support only working law enforcement officers defending children at school when most schools in America don’t have one and nothing short of that is reasonable to you?

Edited by donsm60, Dec 17 2013, 10:48 AM.
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It isn't that complicated or difficult for someone to learn how to handle a weapon and patrol a school.
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donsm60
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It’s not but some think it is, training willing teachers to defend their classroom isn't rocket science.
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I will say it one more time. I have known literally hundreds of teachers. Of those few who would be willing to carry a gun at school, they are specifically those who should never, in my opinion, be allowed to carry a gun anywhere, let alone around students.
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So get a non teacher, problem solved.
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donsm60
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How long have you been retied Colo? If you haven’t noticed… whatever it is you’ve been teaching kids in Colorado you are the birthplace of recent mass shootings starting with Columbine. I know you’re old but when do you think reality will set in for you? I’m sure a lot of younger teachers there see the reality and are licensed to carry outside of school today.
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I am sorry to dissappoint you Don, but your intended personal attack missed the mark by several miles. I am in a school building with current teachers a minimum of three days per week and with additional active teachers almost every Saturday. All those teachers tell me the same thing that I posted. Of the very few teachers they know who would be willing to carry a gun in a school, they are all those whom would be most dangerous to students and fellow staff members.
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Rambo would have made a good teacher!
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colo_crawdad
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In fact, I hear the same thing that I mentioned above from teachers at Columbine High School.
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The big problems with guns in general is that they provide opportunity. It is far easier to kill somebody with a gun that it is to say knife them. Impersonal killing at a distance. One statistic that has not been mentioned here is child deaths due to guns. It is way off the charts in the US compared to other developed counties. Mainly accidental, kids shooting other kids & things like that, but the statistcs on it are appalling. You look at other countries where gun ownership is high like Switzerland and you do not see that. The NRA types always like to use Switzerland as a point of comparision without telling you that restrictions on firearms there are quite high. When I look at them, they are more restrictive than Canada. Many of the rules & regs present there are the same ones that many would like to introduce in the US and yet are being fought by the NRA types. If those rules do not seem to curb the rights of responsible gun owners in that country, why the objection in the US?

Swiss gun regs

The Weapons Act contains a comprehensive regime for the licensing of the acquisition and carrying of permitted weapons; the banning of certain weapons, including automatic firearms; and the production and trade in weapons, including the reporting obligations of dealers and a registration system that covers all privately owned guns, including those acquired by inheritance, but not including hunting rifles. The federal Weapons Act is implemented by the cantons and the cantons also keep registers of privately owned guns. The provisions on ammunition are in keeping with the principles of the Act, which aims to deter abuse while permitting lawful gunownership.

Acquisition of Guns

An acquisition license is required primarily for handguns. Rifles and semiautomatic long arms that are customarily used by recreational hunters are exempt from the licensing requirement,whereas fully automatic guns are banned. An applicant for a weapons license must be at least eighteen years of age, may not have been placed under guardianship, may not give cause for suspicion that he would endanger himself or others with the weapon, and may not have a criminal record with a conviction for a violent crime or of several convictions for nonviolent crimes. The license is issued by the canton of residence of the applicant but is valid throughout Switzerland. The license is valid for six months, maximally nine months. It is usually valid for the acquisition of one weapon only.

The acquisition license is required only if a weapon is acquired from a dealer. No license is required for transactions between private individuals. Instead, these are permitted as long as the seller verifies the identity and age of the buyer by checking an official identification document and as long as he has no reason to believe that the buyer has been or should be disqualified from gun ownership. The buyer may ascertain these circumstances by requesting information from the cantonal authorities, but only if the buyer consents in writing.

Carrying of Guns

The carrying of a gun for defensive purposes requires a carrying license, which will be granted only if the applicant is qualified to acquire guns; demonstrates a need for the weapon to protect himself, others, or property against existing dangers; and has passed an exam to test his required theoretical knowledge and practical skill. The theoretical exam tests knowledge of

criminal provisions on violent crimes and self-defense, and necessity as a justification or excuse;
federal and cantonal weapons law provisions;
types of weapons and ammunition; and
security measures and proper conduct when carrying weapons.

The practical examination tests the applicant’s skill in handling the weapon, including loading, unloading, operating the safety device, and shooting.

A carrying license permits the concealed carrying of a handgun. No carrying license is required for the transporting of an unloaded weapon for legitimate purposes, such as travel to and from the shooting range or hunting environment, as long as the ammunition is kept separate from the weapon.
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