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Do not enter Mexico; Too dangerous
Topic Started: Dec 15 2013, 11:59 PM (763 Views)
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tomdrobin
Dec 16 2013, 05:23 AM
Pat
Dec 16 2013, 05:00 AM
It was Mexican armed forces attacking American police officers. There have been numerous news stories and articles about it.
Really? I follow the news pretty close and had not heard this. Where do you get this stuff? Sounds like straight out of the National Enquirer or The Globe.
I have seen several such stories on programs like 60 Minutes Tom. I didn't go looking for them.
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Dec 16 2013, 05:25 AM
tomdrobin
Dec 16 2013, 05:23 AM
Pat
Dec 16 2013, 05:00 AM
It was Mexican armed forces attacking American police officers. There have been numerous news stories and articles about it.
Really? I follow the news pretty close and had not heard this. Where do you get this stuff? Sounds like straight out of the National Enquirer or The Globe.
I have seen several such stories on programs like 60 Minutes Tom. I didn't go looking for them.
I found a case of Mexican police shooting at an embassy vehicle. There were two CIA agents and a Mexican Naval Officer in the vehicle.
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Here you go Sea Dog and Tom, it took me 20 times longer to format it for posting than finding it with a google search. This is one case of many.





Mexican incursions inflame border situation





By Brock N. Meeks



Chief Washington correspondent



msnbc.com

When one of the vehicles carrying drugs got stuck in the river, the uniformed men fanned out and took up protective positions as others unloaded the marijuana, West testified. When the drugs were unloaded, the truck was set on fire “and still sits in the river where it burned,” West said.
Mexican officials said Friday that, after an initial investigation, none of its military were involved in the episode. A State Department official testifying Tuesday said that a separate U.S. investigation is still being conducted.
Nothing unusual
Mexican soldiers caught inside U.S. boundaries “isn’t a new phenomenon,” said David Aguilar, chief of the U.S. Border Patrol. Although the Mexican military has an “internal policy” that states they won’t operate within about two miles of the U.S., that policy is routinely violated or simply ignored, he said. “We often spot them” near or inside U.S. borders, Aguilar said.
And on several occasions the U.S. has chased, apprehended and even detained members of the Mexican military, Aguilar said during his testimony. However, the U.S. has no concrete evidence that the Mexican military is in any way involved in drug smuggling, Aguilar was quick to point out.
“However, we address these (incursions) as the serious criminal acts that they are, and these cases are actively pursued,” Aguilar said.
Union president Bonner asked Congress to treat the issue with more seriousness because the violence was widespread, leading to a “growing problem of armed incursions across the southwest border of the United States by current and former Mexican soldiers and law enforcement officers.”
Bonner also urged the subcommittee members to hold Mexico accountable as well for not doing enough on its side of the border to help stem the problem.
The violence is escalating even as state and federal border crackdown initiatives take hold, law enforcement officials told the panel Tuesday.
Drug smugglers have moved to sophisticated techniques and increasingly lethal weaponry, including machine guns, said West. “And I’m afraid the situation will soon turn explosive, literally,” he said. “How much longer is it going to be before the drug cartels start using explosives?” he said.


© 2013 msnbc.com



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Tell us again the part about the Mexican Military attacking
US cops on American soil.
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Get informed or better yet go to the border for your USA vacation.
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Dec 16 2013, 05:52 AM
Tell us again the part about the Mexican Military attacking
US cops on American soil.
I knew you would say something like that so I was prepared. Google the names and you will find it. I'm not being factitious Sea Dog, I'm really tired of you guys on the left questioning what I write and demanding I provide all the research for you. I assume you are just as capable as I in coming up with the facts.
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telcoman
Dec 16 2013, 02:55 AM
That is a rather odd statement. Maybe you want to rethink that. You compare drug dealers shooting each other with random nuts shooting innocent kids? if you get involved with drugs in Mexico, or anywhere for that matter, you dramatically increases your chance of being killed. In that case you have bought it upon yourself. No kid in a school partcipates in behaviour which deserves being shot for.

What? The cartel has killed no innocent adults in Mexico? I didn't know that.
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According to the "Latin American Herald Tribune:"

Number of Innocents Killed in Mexico Drug War Up 172%

MEXICO CITY – The number of civilians killed in the conflict pitting Mexico’s powerful drug cartels against each other and the security forces soared by 172 percent in the last 12 months, capital daily Reforma said Monday, citing official figures.



But sometimes they don't wait for the children to grow up... according to the Washington Post:

Mexican Drug Cartels Targeting and Killing Children

SAN LUIS POTOSI, Mexico — On a sunny afternoon last week, when the streets of this mountain mining city were filled with schoolchildren and parents hurrying home from work, gunmen entered a tiny apartment and started firing methodically.

The assassins killed everyone: the family matriarch and her adult son; her daughter and son-in-law, and finally, her 22-month-old granddaughter.

The child was not killed by mistake. Preliminary forensics indicate that the gunmen, unchallenged, pointed a pistol at Scarlett Ramirez and fired.

In Mexico’s brutal drug war, children are increasingly victims, innocents caught in the crossfire, shot dead alongside their parents — and intentionally targeted.

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Those Mexican druggies are brutal pieces of dung and if you are unlucky enough to be in the wrong place you get killed regardless of who you are or where you are from.
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Dec 16 2013, 06:20 AM
Sea Dog
Dec 16 2013, 05:52 AM
Tell us again the part about the Mexican Military attacking
US cops on American soil.
I knew you would say something like that so I was prepared. Google the names and you will find it. I'm not being factitious Sea Dog, I'm really tired of you guys on the left questioning what I write and demanding I provide all the research for you. I assume you are just as capable as I in coming up with the facts.
In the interest of saving time, wouldn't it be better to just provide the links rather than require everyone to do the research independently? If what you post is correct, you should be able to provide links to what you claim as facts.
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