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Socialist countries; based on % social expenditures to GDP
Topic Started: Dec 15 2013, 02:23 AM (649 Views)
Banandangees
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This is worth a thread of it's own:


Considering "how socialist a country is," based on a nation's welfare expenditures (social/entitlement programs) when compared to the nation's GDP shows the US being more socialistic than is Canada.

A recent updated article comments on a study done by the "Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), titled ""Social Expenditure Database."

Of the Thity-four countries mentioned in the study, the U.S. ranked 11th and Canada 22nd in % of GDP spent on social expenditures.

The U.S. lead all countries in highest % of GDP contributions made by private sources for welfare expenditures.

The rankings are as follows:

1 France
2 Denmark
3 Sweden
4 Belgium
5 Austria
6 Germany
7 Finland
8 Great Britain
9 Italy
10 Netherlands
11 United States
12 Portugal
13 Spain
14 Japan
15 CHE
16 Ireland
17 Greece
18 Norway
19 Luxembourg
20 ???
21 Iceland
22 Canada
23 Hungary
24 SVN
25 NZL
26 Poland
27 Czech Republic
28 Australia
29 Estonia
30 SVK
31 Israel
32 Turkey
33 South Korea
34 Mexico
Edited by Banandangees, Dec 15 2013, 02:25 AM.
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That is interesting. To me it indicates that the US is spending money on the wrong type of social expenditures and spending that money inefficiently.
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Can you explain??
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Well assuming your list is correct and its quite obvious that Canada has far more social programs in play than does the US. the only conclusion is that the US is spending its social program budget in the wrong places or it is doing so ineffciently. Canada, for eg has universal health care, A pregnant woman gets a year off work with pay, everybody gets at least some social security whether they have worked or not.Low paid workers cna apply for Gain (guaranteed annual income supplement). There is similar program for pensioners who are low income. And so on. So how do we do that & spend less per GDP than the US. Obviously the answer appears to be that we do it more efficiently.
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Most social services (starting with our health care system) does not show up in the Canadian government expenditures as most of these expenditures are in each individual provincial and territorial budgets.


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Yes I forgot about that, it could skew the figures unless they are counting that.
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You cannot compare us to other countries, especially piddy ass ones like Canada. We have a far more complex situation.
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Dec 15 2013, 04:48 AM
You cannot compare us to other countries, especially piddy ass ones like Canada. We have a far more complex situation.
And an obstructionist right wing political party.
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So you say with nothing but propaganda to base it on.
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Anyone else notice how Newt never adds anything intelligent to a conversation?
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