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Gun violence is a people problem not a gun problem; Another school shooting
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Topic Started: Dec 14 2013, 10:03 AM (1,031 Views)
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colo_crawdad
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Dec 16 2013, 05:22 AM
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Pat, what is significant or important about that high school student being a "self described socialist?"
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Dec 16 2013, 05:36 AM
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No, but probably close to 2 million gun owners.
Despite what you guys on the right fear, I have never met a liberal who suggested taking away firearms. We just think that reasonable laws are required to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies. Neutral comes to mind.
OK, nobody wants a nut case owning a gun. Colorado passed legislation along that line, it failed to stop the shotgun wielding self described socialist from going after a librarian at the school. He's dead so do we take mom and dad out and shoot them too for letting their idiot son loose on the rest of us. We discussed this last year, dear old mom, the family and the friends knew the Newtown shooter was a scary nut case. Should we lock up or execute all those enablers? No, the left just wants al of us to disarm, which is exactly what the leaders and spokespeople of gun control groups have admitted. One step at a time, disarm us all. I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. Leave me out of it.
"I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. " That's what I say too, but the gun nuts don't even won't background checks for many sales. I would also appreciate it if you could link me to something that says the left wants to disarm you. I have seen gun control groups with liberal members of congress saying just that Colo. The news stories are out there. Go to the members of congress for those who are pro gun control and see what they have said.
And it's not just background checks. They want to limit the types of guns and clips too. Again, it's not the guns or ammo it's the nutcases.
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Dec 16 2013, 05:36 AM
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Pat, what is significant or important about that high school student being a "self described socialist?" Good question, Colo. Sounds like Pat and Neut are trying to accuse the shooters of being leftists.
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Dec 16 2013, 05:37 AM
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And criminals and thugs I might add. As if they have any intent on following laws and rules.
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Dec 16 2013, 05:37 AM
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No, but probably close to 2 million gun owners.
Despite what you guys on the right fear, I have never met a liberal who suggested taking away firearms. We just think that reasonable laws are required to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies. Neutral comes to mind.
OK, nobody wants a nut case owning a gun. Colorado passed legislation along that line, it failed to stop the shotgun wielding self described socialist from going after a librarian at the school. He's dead so do we take mom and dad out and shoot them too for letting their idiot son loose on the rest of us. We discussed this last year, dear old mom, the family and the friends knew the Newtown shooter was a scary nut case. Should we lock up or execute all those enablers? No, the left just wants al of us to disarm, which is exactly what the leaders and spokespeople of gun control groups have admitted. One step at a time, disarm us all. I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. Leave me out of it.
"I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. " That's what I say too, but the gun nuts don't even won't background checks for many sales. I would also appreciate it if you could link me to something that says the left wants to disarm you.
I have seen gun control groups with liberal members of congress saying just that Colo. The news stories are out there. Go to the members of congress for those who are pro gun control and see what they have said. And it's not just background checks. They want to limit the types of guns and clips too. Again, it's not the guns or ammo it's the nutcases. Maybe you should write down a who's who of the forum members, Pat. I'm not Brew or Colo. I'm either Neal or MR.
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Mountainrivers
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Dec 16 2013, 05:40 AM
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No, but probably close to 2 million gun owners.
Despite what you guys on the right fear, I have never met a liberal who suggested taking away firearms. We just think that reasonable laws are required to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies. Neutral comes to mind.
OK, nobody wants a nut case owning a gun. Colorado passed legislation along that line, it failed to stop the shotgun wielding self described socialist from going after a librarian at the school. He's dead so do we take mom and dad out and shoot them too for letting their idiot son loose on the rest of us. We discussed this last year, dear old mom, the family and the friends knew the Newtown shooter was a scary nut case. Should we lock up or execute all those enablers? No, the left just wants al of us to disarm, which is exactly what the leaders and spokespeople of gun control groups have admitted. One step at a time, disarm us all. I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. Leave me out of it.
"I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. " That's what I say too, but the gun nuts don't even won't background checks for many sales. I would also appreciate it if you could link me to something that says the left wants to disarm you.
I have seen gun control groups with liberal members of congress saying just that Colo. The news stories are out there. Go to the members of congress for those who are pro gun control and see what they have said. And it's not just background checks. They want to limit the types of guns and clips too. Again, it's not the guns or ammo it's the nutcases. I agree it's the nutcases, but without the big weapons, they couldn't do as much damage. The only reason I can see to own an AR15 type rifle and 100 round clips is fear that you might have to fight the government. If that's the case, then those people are all nutcases, imo.
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Dec 16 2013, 05:41 AM
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No, but probably close to 2 million gun owners.
Despite what you guys on the right fear, I have never met a liberal who suggested taking away firearms. We just think that reasonable laws are required to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies. Neutral comes to mind.
OK, nobody wants a nut case owning a gun. Colorado passed legislation along that line, it failed to stop the shotgun wielding self described socialist from going after a librarian at the school. He's dead so do we take mom and dad out and shoot them too for letting their idiot son loose on the rest of us. We discussed this last year, dear old mom, the family and the friends knew the Newtown shooter was a scary nut case. Should we lock up or execute all those enablers? No, the left just wants al of us to disarm, which is exactly what the leaders and spokespeople of gun control groups have admitted. One step at a time, disarm us all. I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. Leave me out of it.
"I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. " That's what I say too, but the gun nuts don't even won't background checks for many sales. I would also appreciate it if you could link me to something that says the left wants to disarm you.
I have seen gun control groups with liberal members of congress saying just that Colo. The news stories are out there. Go to the members of congress for those who are pro gun control and see what they have said. And it's not just background checks. They want to limit the types of guns and clips too. Again, it's not the guns or ammo it's the nutcases.
I agree it's the nutcases, but without the big weapons, they couldn't do as much damage. The only reason I can see to own an AR15 type rifle and 100 round clips is fear that you might have to fight the government. If that's the case, then those people are all nutcases, imo. Yes that is a sobering thought, yet history does repeat itself and I'm sure in the past those who had means to defend themselves were considered nut cases.
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colo_crawdad
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Dec 16 2013, 05:42 AM
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Pat, what is significant or important about that high school student being a "self described socialist?"
Good question, Colo. Sounds like Pat and Neut are trying to accuse the shooters of being leftists. What difference could that possibly make? A yoyng man broke under a myriad of pressures. Is such some kind of trait of "leftists?"
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Dec 16 2013, 05:43 AM
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No, but probably close to 2 million gun owners.
Despite what you guys on the right fear, I have never met a liberal who suggested taking away firearms. We just think that reasonable laws are required to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies. Neutral comes to mind.
OK, nobody wants a nut case owning a gun. Colorado passed legislation along that line, it failed to stop the shotgun wielding self described socialist from going after a librarian at the school. He's dead so do we take mom and dad out and shoot them too for letting their idiot son loose on the rest of us. We discussed this last year, dear old mom, the family and the friends knew the Newtown shooter was a scary nut case. Should we lock up or execute all those enablers? No, the left just wants al of us to disarm, which is exactly what the leaders and spokespeople of gun control groups have admitted. One step at a time, disarm us all. I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. Leave me out of it.
"I say deal with the nutcases and their enablers. " That's what I say too, but the gun nuts don't even won't background checks for many sales. I would also appreciate it if you could link me to something that says the left wants to disarm you.
I have seen gun control groups with liberal members of congress saying just that Colo. The news stories are out there. Go to the members of congress for those who are pro gun control and see what they have said. And it's not just background checks. They want to limit the types of guns and clips too. Again, it's not the guns or ammo it's the nutcases.
I agree it's the nutcases, but without the big weapons, they couldn't do as much damage. The only reason I can see to own an AR15 type rifle and 100 round clips is fear that you might have to fight the government. If that's the case, then those people are all nutcases, imo.
Yes that is a sobering thought, yet history does repeat itself and I'm sure in the past those who had means to defend themselves were considered nut cases. In our entire history, when have the people been required to defend themselves against the government of the US and been successful?
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Dec 16 2013, 05:44 AM
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You libs say often it's right wing gun nuts. that's why it's significant. Ask some of the MSM why they deleted the fact he was a socialist.
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