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| Gun violence is a people problem not a gun problem; Another school shooting | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 14 2013, 10:03 AM (1,029 Views) | |
| Pat | Dec 14 2013, 10:03 AM Post #1 |
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With the anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary murders arriving tomorrow, more terrible news hit today with another school shooting, this time at a high school in Centennial, Colorado. Early reports indicate that a shooter injured two students before shooting and killing himself. One sordid ritual that's become commonplace, even as events are still unfolding, has been the media's exploitation of these tragedies to push for tighter gun control laws. That will be more difficult for the media this time. In July, Colorado enacted much of the media's gun control wish list. In reaction to both Sandy Hook and a mass-shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, the year prior, the Democrat-led state legislature in Colorado passed laws requiring universal background checks and limiting the size of ammunition magazines to 15 rounds. Democrat Governor John Hickenlooper signed the bills into law, and both were enacted 6 months ago. After Sandy Hook, Democrats and the elite media spent months on a deeply cynical and partisan crusade to pass Manchin-Toomey, a law that would have required background checks on all commercial sales but did not address the size of ammunition magazines. Another way to put it is that the gun control laws passed into law in Colorado are even stricter than the law the media and Democrats worked so hard to, but ultimately failed to see passed. In the immediate aftermath of Sandy Hook, the media and White House had hoped to see bans on what they falsely describe as "assault weapons." To prove the Administration wasn't anti-gun, but only interested in banning the "assault weapons" they blamed for these mass-shootings, Vice President Joe Biden suggested that Americans "get a double-barrel shotgun." According to early reports, today's school shooter used a shotgun. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 14 2013, 10:29 AM Post #2 |
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Pat, I have been in Arapahoe High School in Littleton, Colorado a number of times. It appears that a student had a disagreeement with the High School Librarian/debate coach and went looking to kill the debate coach. I think the interesting thing is how violence, including gun violence, has become such an acceptable way of solving problems in this country. How to change that attitude poses a most difficult problem. It will be too bad if we accept such violence as just collateral damage of the interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. |
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| Neutral | Dec 14 2013, 10:35 AM Post #3 |
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The debate coach ran I hear. |
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| Deleted User | Dec 14 2013, 11:47 AM Post #4 |
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Pat with all due respect, just look at the stats. It may be a people problem but easy access to guns is facilitating it. When more kids are shot in the US than are killed in all the next 25 developed countries combined, it has to be obvious. |
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| donsm60 | Dec 14 2013, 12:15 PM Post #5 |
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It is what it is and emotion won’t fix anything. I got a little choked up watching the news on the Sandy Hook anniversary tonight, I would have died trying to stop it. You meet force with force and fast. Staff and parents that are willing to take the time to become certified to carry at school is the answer and many here are. What’s us holding back getting to that point here is from an insurance reality not anyone protesting it, in Florida insurance companies refuse to allow anyone not sworn Law Enforcement to carry a firearm on school grounds. It’s 2013, not the good ole days, the resource officer at this school didn't stop this student from gaining entry and played no part in the outcome of it and thankfully he didn’t kill anyone besides himself. |
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| wanderingjays | Dec 14 2013, 12:22 PM Post #6 |
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The problem isn't going to be solved by passing more gun laws . The problem is lack of enforcement of the ones we already have . |
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| Neutral | Dec 14 2013, 12:23 PM Post #7 |
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Another problem is we have "gun free" zones. |
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| Brewster | Dec 14 2013, 12:27 PM Post #8 |
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It's a Gun problem, not a People problem. Have you ever seen kids playing cops n robbers with fake guns? They say "Bang!" and nobody gets hurt. Actors shoot Guns with properly prepared blanks, nobody gets hurt. Put a real Gun in either of those hands, and people die. Guns Kill. Worse, they breed an attitude of inevitability and violence - Don is an excellent example. Even worse, even beyond the actual use of guns, they create a violent world. Since I know you won't believe me, I'm just blowing off steam at the useless loss of life - again. Edited by Brewster, Dec 15 2013, 02:11 AM.
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| Neutral | Dec 14 2013, 12:29 PM Post #9 |
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So stay out of this country, we like out right to bear firearms. |
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| wanderingjays | Dec 14 2013, 12:34 PM Post #10 |
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HELL IN A HELMET
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Come on down to my part of the country. You're more than welcome. |
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