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House conservatives come out against Ryan sell out; deal in direct opposition to republican goal
Topic Started: Dec 12 2013, 11:29 AM (562 Views)
Pat
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/12/11/House-conservative-members-announce-public-opposition-to-Paul-Ryan-s-budget-deal

This should make for an interesting conversation in the republican caucus.
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Berton
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There are a few but it is going to pass.

Oh, and you also have some Democrats saying they are against it.

Edited by Berton, Dec 12 2013, 11:43 AM.
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Pat
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I have no doubt that Speaker John Bohner and the rest of the fiscal liberals in congress will pas this. To put this into perspective read this:




Debt Up $3T In Less Than 3 Yrs Under Boehner's Deals; More Than Under All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan



December 11, 2013 - 8:22 PM



By Terence P. Jeffrey

(CNSNews.com) - The new debt run up by the federal government since House Speaker John Boehner cut his first spending deal with President Barack Obama has now topped $3 trillion—exceeding all the debt accumulated under all American presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

Boehner became speaker in January 2011, after the Republicans won a majority of the House of Representatives in the 2010 elections. He cut his first spending deal with President Barack Obama on March 1, 2011, and that deal took effect after March 4, 2011 when the continuing resolution then funding the government expired. Since then, the federal government has been funded under legislation approved by the Republican-controlled House that Boehner leads.

At the close of business on March 4, 2011, the federal debt was $14,182,627,184,881.03, according to the U.S. Treasury. As of the close of business on Dec. 10, 2013, it was $17,234,005,998,603.93.

That means that under federal spending deals negotiated during Boehner's speakership and approved by a Republican-majority House that Boehner leads, the federal debt has increased $3,051,378,813,722.90.

At the end of January 1989, the month Reagan left office, the federal debt was $2,697,957,000,000, according to the Monthly Statement of the Public Debt. It did not exceed $3 trillion until March of 1990, when George H.W. Bush was president.

At the end of March 1990, the total debt the United States government had accumulated in its then-almost-214 years of existence was almost exactly as much as the increase in the debt during the less than three years of Boehner’s speakership: $3,051,956,000,000.

Boehner is the 53rd speaker of the House. Tom Foley, the 49th speaker, held the office in 1990 when the total debt topped $3 trillion. Under Boehner, the debt has now increased more in less than three years than under the first 48 House speakers combined—running from Frederick Muhlenberg of Pennsylvania to Jim Wright of Texas.

The $3,051,378,813,722.90 increase in the debt since Boehner cut his initial March 2011 spending deal with President Obama equals $26,530.729 for each of the 115,013,000 households the Census Bureau estimates there are now in the United States.

The business and economic reporting of CNSNews.com is funded in part with a gift made in memory of Dr. Keith C. Wold.

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The government needs more revenue. But, all the cons can think of is cutting. Once people realize it's not the other guys entitlements but theirs, there will be a backlash.
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House conservatives come out against Ryan sell out
deal in direct opposition to republican goal

Yep, it violates their primary goal -- to avoid and defeat ANYTHING that might help that black guy in the White House from reelection, even though he is not seeking reelection. The Republicans have stated that as their goal many times.
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Playing the race card. Another way to attempt to shut down the discussion.

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colo_crawdad
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Who is "playing the race card" other than the radical right wing Tea Party House Republicans?
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Berton
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And again he plays the race card to try to end all discussion about the subject of the thread.

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Perhaps
Berton will like this post better. It ignores the FACT that the guy in the White House is black.

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House conservatives come out against Ryan sell out
deal in direct opposition to republican goal

Yep, it violates their primary goal -- to avoid and defeat ANYTHING that might help that guy in the White House from reelection, even though he is not seeking reelection. The Republicans have stated that as their goal many times.
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