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| Berton | Dec 11 2013, 10:17 AM Post #1 |
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If You Like Your Obamacare Plan Don’t Count on Keeping It Much has been made about the promise of "if you like your current plan you can keep it." But what if I like my Obamacare plan that I get in 2014? Will I be able to keep that? The simple answer is – No. The reason is that the new figures set forth in 2015 increase the maximum deductible from $2000 to $2150 and the out of pocket limit from $6350 to $6850. More on this in a minute. Due to the strict metal tiers imposed under the law, several of the plans that have been approved in 2014 will not meet the criteria in 2015. It boils down to changes in benefit requirements coupled with a constantly changing average actuarial value calculation. To better understand, consider this – when doing a mathematical calculation, you have two numbers that equal a third number. If you change one of the first two numbers, the third number will always be different. How does this relate to PPACA? If I have a strict actuarial value that must be achieved with the third number, then changing one of the first two numbers (like deductibles or out of pocket maximums) makes the problem mathematically impossible. For example, in 2014 one of the plans offered by Medical Mutual of Ohio has an actuarial value of 80.5% which makes it a Gold plan. The benefits of this plan are: Deductible: $2000 Coinsurance: 80% Out of Pocket Maximum: $4000 Office Visit Copay: $25 Specialist Visit Copay: $50 Prescriptions: $15/$30/$50/80% If I plug these same benefits into the 2015 proposed calculator the new actuarial value is 75.91% which makes it non-compliant. Oops! Under the law I won’t be able to keep this plan. This scenario isn't unique to MMO. Plans with Anthem, United Health Care, and others are in the same situation. The President made it very clear that it wasn’t his fault that you couldn’t keep your plan. He now says it is up to your state insurance commissioner and insurance company if they want to allow you to keep your plan. Next year, when this exact same scenario happens with Obamacare-compliant plans, whose fault will it be? LINK |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 11 2013, 10:23 AM Post #2 |
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I will hand it to Berton. He can find, copy and paste more right wing anti-Obama and anti-ACA blogs than anyone else. But after a time those posts become much like the little boy who cried "wolf." No one actually pays much attention to them.
Edited by colo_crawdad, Dec 11 2013, 10:25 AM.
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| Berton | Dec 11 2013, 10:35 AM Post #3 |
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You should, but then you don't seem to want to know the truth. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 11 2013, 11:01 AM Post #4 |
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If you really believed it was the truth, you wouldn't feel a need to post one after another of the right wing blogs attacking YOUR President and YOUR health care reform act. I say YOUR because I am assuming that you are an American. |
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| Berton | Dec 11 2013, 11:05 AM Post #5 |
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Of course I am an American and I am patriotically doing my duty to criticize MY President when I think him wrong and I am doing my duty when criticizing laws which I think are wrong. Only a left wing hater of democracy and free speech would be critical of me doing so. BTW - Were you aware that if you like your Obamacare policy you may not be able to keep it? Edited by Berton, Dec 11 2013, 11:06 AM.
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 11 2013, 11:08 AM Post #6 |
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One certainly cannot tell from your constant anti-American posts that your are an American, let alone a patriotic one. |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 11 2013, 11:10 AM Post #7 |
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BTW, if I like my ACA policy the only threat to it is from anti-Americans like yourself urging it be repealed. JMHO |
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| colo_crawdad | Dec 11 2013, 11:15 AM Post #8 |
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In the words of George W. Bush, "you're either with us, or against us" |
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| Neutral | Dec 11 2013, 11:20 AM Post #9 |
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If you wouldn't ignore the facts you would want it repealed too Colo. |
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| Neutral | Dec 11 2013, 11:25 AM Post #10 |
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Brilliant, you claim no one pays attention but you did.
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