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Urgent surgery: a forgotten wait time?
Topic Started: Dec 10 2013, 09:39 AM (1,325 Views)
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For you and some others that is exactly the truth.
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Berton
Dec 14 2013, 08:22 AM
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Dec 14 2013, 08:17 AM
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Dec 14 2013, 08:04 AM
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Dec 14 2013, 12:00 AM
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Dec 13 2013, 09:26 PM
Those are some interesting links ImaHeadaU but still do not answer the question about why aren't emergency or unplanned surgical procedure wait times never measured in Canada?
Apart from the terrible grammar, nobody will answer your question because it's silly.

How in H*ll do you measure wait times for unplanned surgeries? Since no-one even knew there was going to BE a surgery, at what point do you start the clock? When the doctor decides to operate? When the patient enters the hospital, probably with some completely different complaint? When the patient was born? Has the US invented a time machine they haven't told us about?

As for emergency procedures, that depends upon your definition of "emergency". Emergency admissions ARE measured. And unlike the US, in-hospital emergency procedures are done right away. That's because they're emergencies. And they're not subject to credit checks.

But of course, those answers don't suit your Right Wing Ideology, so now you're going to have to ask the same stupid question over again. Sorry to make your life so difficult, Bertie.

Oh, and now you're going to have to post that I'm being childish because I pointed out your stupidity by a name change, as I told you I would do long ago..

Stop asking childish questions, and maybe I'll start showing you some respect...
Yep. When I was having problems with my hip I tried several suggestions over the course of a couple of years to deal with the pain and loss of mobility. When the shots were proving to be more pain than the hip pain, my doctor and I decided that replacement was the right way forward. I don't know about you guys but you don't just march up to a hospital in Seattle and tell the receptionist that you have a surgeon in the car and you are their to use the operating facilities. It was a four month time in meeting the hospital's requirements and the actual surgery date. The operating rooms for elective surgery are booked far in advance. So how could you measure a wait time in this case and I doubt my case is odd or out of character with the rest of those in a similar situation.

As far as the gall bladder situation, again, we have had some friends that fought that one too, Going from painful attacks until the surgery could be scheduled. All of this is different in the event the elective surgery turns into a life threatening condition. Then of course they get you in immediately.

Pat you are letting the Canadians miss lead you into thinking this thread is about what they call "elective" surgery which is what you are talking about in their lexicon.

Read the link in the first post.

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I'm about ready to toss the granddaughter's computer out the door. I can't open the link Berton, I get a message about "see blank" in the address box. So in a nutshell, what did the link say. Just paraphrase it.
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In Canada that people go to the emergency room who need urgent surgery but are required to wait because elective surgery is taking all the resources. Further that no one knows how much wait time there is because that stat is not being rerecorded. That is about it in a nutshell.

Edited by Berton, Dec 14 2013, 08:44 AM.
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He didn't paraphrase, he Lied.
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Dec 14 2013, 08:36 AM
In Canada that people go to the emergency room who need urgent surgery but are required to wait because elective surgery is taking all the resources. Further that no one knows how much wait time there is because that stat is not being rerecorded. That is about it in a nutshell.

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Dec 14 2013, 08:56 AM
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Dec 14 2013, 08:36 AM
In Canada that people go to the emergency room who need urgent surgery but are required to wait because elective surgery is taking all the resources. Further that no one knows how much wait time there is because that stat is not being rerecorded. That is about it in a nutshell.

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Was that for me?

I prefer a system that does not have facilities sitting around gathering moss. So I can see such an event happening in every hospital in the world.
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Okay, if you accept waiting around a few hours for a appendectomy for your appendix to burst then that is your choice. But why not move elective surgery so you can have the urgent surgery you need?

Edited by Berton, Dec 14 2013, 09:43 AM.
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Why? Because you have to coordinate more than just a surgical cubical. Any surgery requires a team of doctors and nurses plus support staff and supplies. This is a business model dependent on structure not a fast food drive by. The hospital would have emergency staff that can stabilize a patient for transport to another facility that is not crowded.
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Dec 14 2013, 08:03 AM
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Dec 14 2013, 07:54 AM
Not surprising at all from reading you.
Meaning what ?
Care to answer this neutral ? I'm really interested in what you have to say.
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Neutral should change his handle to Neutered. It's very evident he has no testicles.
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