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Wait times for “non-priority” surgeries
Topic Started: Dec 10 2013, 09:26 AM (1,563 Views)
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Pretty pathetic canook who doesn't get a vote but spends his life commenting to those that do. lol
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Dec 13 2013, 09:09 AM
So I gather Bertie would rather his health and future be entrusted to a bunch of Corporate bureaucrats who are only beholden to their shareholders than to the people he himself votes into office.

Pretty pathetic opinion of his own voting judgement, it seems to me.

Mind you, since he mindlessly votes Republican every time, he probably has reason for the low opinion.
No Child, I would rather my health care providers be intrusted to my health care than a bunch of government bureaucrats who are only beholden to their want of power and special interests.

But then some people want government bureaucrats to run their lives. Pretty pathetic of them it seems to me.

Mind you I didn't know the Child has access to my ballet which is what he would have to have to know how I have voted. In fact I am sure he does not which shows just how silly that childish statement of his is.

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Berton
Dec 13 2013, 07:58 AM
telcoman
Dec 13 2013, 12:19 AM
Berton
Dec 12 2013, 11:46 AM
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Dec 12 2013, 06:31 AM
Berton
Dec 12 2013, 03:04 AM
Mike
Dec 11 2013, 12:27 PM
Berton
Dec 11 2013, 10:53 AM
I understand that non-urgent surgeries have long wait times even if the patient is in serious pain. That agrees with the article. But why are bureaucrats making health care decisions?

Berton,

The simple answer to your question is this...because they were elected to the decision making office charged with deciding how best to cover the healthcare needs of all citizens and to do so within the budget.


I am glad to see that you are aware that the quality of health care in Canada depends on politicians, not on the health care providers.

Bull crap

Really? Who holds the purse strings?

Health care providers or the government(Provincial and Federal)?



Most funding comes from the government, but not all of it. Most hospitals and medical centers run lotteries as well to raise funds. Vancouver Childrens hospital, for eg, is also a registered charity. I give $30 a month to them for example. (Link). Michel Bubble is also a major patron of that hospital.

As you say, most funding comes from the government. He who holds the purse strings.....

Even if you are ashamed to admit it.



Why should I be ashamed to admit that? It works. The health stats and overall costs per capita prove it.
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H*ll of a lot better than deciding on your surgery based on if there's enough profit for the shareholders.
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Dec 13 2013, 02:03 PM
Berton
Dec 13 2013, 07:58 AM
telcoman
Dec 13 2013, 12:19 AM
Berton
Dec 12 2013, 11:46 AM
telcoman
Dec 12 2013, 06:31 AM
Berton
Dec 12 2013, 03:04 AM
Mike
Dec 11 2013, 12:27 PM
Berton
Dec 11 2013, 10:53 AM
I understand that non-urgent surgeries have long wait times even if the patient is in serious pain. That agrees with the article. But why are bureaucrats making health care decisions?

Berton,

The simple answer to your question is this...because they were elected to the decision making office charged with deciding how best to cover the healthcare needs of all citizens and to do so within the budget.


I am glad to see that you are aware that the quality of health care in Canada depends on politicians, not on the health care providers.

Bull crap

Really? Who holds the purse strings?

Health care providers or the government(Provincial and Federal)?



Most funding comes from the government, but not all of it. Most hospitals and medical centers run lotteries as well to raise funds. Vancouver Childrens hospital, for eg, is also a registered charity. I give $30 a month to them for example. (Link). Michel Bubble is also a major patron of that hospital.

As you say, most funding comes from the government. He who holds the purse strings.....

Even if you are ashamed to admit it.



Why should I be ashamed to admit that? It works. The health stats and overall costs per capita prove it.

It works as long as you want government bureaucrats and politicians running your life. You do and I do not.
And yes, you are ashamed to admit it. It shows every time and even in this thread. I literately had to drag it out of you.

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Dec 13 2013, 02:09 PM
H*ll of a lot better than deciding on your surgery based on if there's enough profit for the shareholders.
That is a stupid response Brewster. I already deflected that asinine statement. You need to wake up and read for a change.

Edited by Berton, Dec 13 2013, 09:43 PM.
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More BS From Berton.

You deflected nothing. Piling one stupid claim on top of another doesn't make either of them true, it just makes a taller pile of crap.

Even you must see the nonsense of claiming that a Corporate Bureaucrat who's only duty is to his shareholders is a better choice than someone who's beholden to your vote. And trying to claim the "Providers" themselves have any more control over Insurers and what they pay than over a Government agency shows an unbelievable degree of naiveté.

Or are you that lost in your Right Wing Ideology?

OK, that was a stupid question, I admit it. Ideology always trumps common sense, doesn't it Bertie?

Edited by Brewster, Dec 14 2013, 12:23 AM.
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Dec 13 2013, 11:24 PM
More BS From Berton.

Another stupid response from Brewster.

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Yes but he knows NJ is a red state. LOL
Edited by Neutral, Dec 14 2013, 12:17 AM.
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I've said this before, but it bears repeating. I am constantly in awe of Neut's memory - he can recall in exquisite detail, for years afterward, events that never even happened.

Every once in a while, I pull you two off Ignore, assuming that sooner or later you will be interested in an honest discussion.

How silly of me. Goodbye.
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