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Wait times for “non-priority” surgeries
Topic Started: Dec 10 2013, 09:26 AM (1,564 Views)
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Berton
Dec 12 2013, 03:04 AM
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I understand that non-urgent surgeries have long wait times even if the patient is in serious pain. That agrees with the article. But why are bureaucrats making health care decisions?

Berton,

The simple answer to your question is this...because they were elected to the decision making office charged with deciding how best to cover the healthcare needs of all citizens and to do so within the budget.


I am glad to see that you are aware that the quality of health care in Canada depends on politicians, not on the health care providers.

Bull crap
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Mike demonstrates he doesn't really understand the Canadian system, and immediately becomes Berton's hero, and "Go To" authority.
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Mike demonstrates he doesn't really understand the Canadian system, and immediately becomes Berton's hero, and "Go To" authority.
What the heck are you blabbing about now?
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Dec 11 2013, 10:53 AM
I understand that non-urgent surgeries have long wait times even if the patient is in serious pain. That agrees with the article. But why are bureaucrats making health care decisions?

Berton,

The simple answer to your question is this...because they were elected to the decision making office charged with deciding how best to cover the healthcare needs of all citizens and to do so within the budget.


I am glad to see that you are aware that the quality of health care in Canada depends on politicians, not on the health care providers.

Bull crap

Really? Who holds the purse strings?

Health care providers or the government(Provincial and Federal)?



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Of course providers should be able to charge whatever they want without any interference from government. The so called free market doesn't work with health care.
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Dec 11 2013, 10:53 AM
I understand that non-urgent surgeries have long wait times even if the patient is in serious pain. That agrees with the article. But why are bureaucrats making health care decisions?

Berton,

The simple answer to your question is this...because they were elected to the decision making office charged with deciding how best to cover the healthcare needs of all citizens and to do so within the budget.


I am glad to see that you are aware that the quality of health care in Canada depends on politicians, not on the health care providers.

Bull crap

Really? Who holds the purse strings?

Health care providers or the government(Provincial and Federal)?



Most funding comes from the government, but not all of it. Most hospitals and medical centers run lotteries as well to raise funds. Vancouver Childrens hospital, for eg, is also a registered charity. I give $30 a month to them for example. (Link). Michel Bubble is also a major patron of that hospital.
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Really? Who holds the purse strings?

Health care providers or the government(Provincial and Federal)?

In Alberta at least, the answer is neither.

A third party agency, made up of a combination of medical people, politicians, and a few knowledgeable people from the general public (nominated by specialised interest groups) set general policy and recommend an annual budget based on that.

While the Provincial Government could in theory override that recommendation, it's only been done once to my knowledge, and it was a disaster, and is not likely to ever be repeated.

Once the budget is set, the money is distributed to the hospitals, etc. who decide BY THEMSELVES how that money will be allocated.

The federal Government has no say, particularly in Alberta, as we pay out to the Feds and other provinces far more than we collect.
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Dec 11 2013, 10:53 AM
I understand that non-urgent surgeries have long wait times even if the patient is in serious pain. That agrees with the article. But why are bureaucrats making health care decisions?

Berton,

The simple answer to your question is this...because they were elected to the decision making office charged with deciding how best to cover the healthcare needs of all citizens and to do so within the budget.


I am glad to see that you are aware that the quality of health care in Canada depends on politicians, not on the health care providers.

Bull crap

Really? Who holds the purse strings?

Health care providers or the government(Provincial and Federal)?



Most funding comes from the government, but not all of it. Most hospitals and medical centers run lotteries as well to raise funds. Vancouver Childrens hospital, for eg, is also a registered charity. I give $30 a month to them for example. (Link). Michel Bubble is also a major patron of that hospital.

As you say, most funding comes from the government. He who holds the purse strings.....

Even if you are ashamed to admit it.



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So I gather Bertie would rather his health and future be entrusted to a bunch of Corporate bureaucrats who are only beholden to their shareholders than to the people he himself votes into office.

Pretty pathetic opinion of his own voting judgement, it seems to me.

Mind you, since he mindlessly votes Republican every time, he probably has reason for the low opinion.
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