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CNN report on guns; Anyone watching?
Topic Started: Dec 9 2013, 08:15 AM (1,031 Views)
tomdrobin
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No doubt we need more restrictions to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and criminals. But, there is more to this problem than the widespread availability of guns.

Take a look at the chart at this link, and notice how some countries have many times more firearms deaths per capita than we do. I think a lot of this is related to lawless attitudes in some segments of society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
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Pat
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How many lives were lost to obesity last year in the United States? People die, we will all die, all of your loved ones, kids, grandkids and those yet to be born will die.
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Tom, take good look at your list - are there any of the countries ahead of you that you would call "First World" countries? Do you really want to be compared to Swaziland?

Pat, yes, we all die. But why are you so anxious to speed up the process?
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Banandangees
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In the link Tom provided, the U.S. has 6 homicides per 100,000 population. Canada had .5 out of a 100,000 population. That's not a tremendous difference; particularly considering the ethnic/racial demographics. Most of the homicides in the U.S. are drug related and most occur in the inner city/ghetto, poor population areas, which suggest that the greatest problem is not guns but culture in the crime areas and how that culture has grown and what has made it grow.

As for Gun Ownership Per Capita, the U.S. ranks 1st at 89.0 per 100 population and Canada ranks 13th at 30.8 out of 178 countries listed. That ranks Canada in the top 7% of the nations listed. Also in the top 7% is Switzerland, Sweden, France and Norway with Austria, Germany and Iceland being in the top 8%. So, maybe the problem is not guns.
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Banandangees
Dec 9 2013, 10:33 AM
Be real careful driving back to Part Dover from the sunny south next spring Sea. 32,885 were killed and 2.4 million injured in car accidents in the US in 2010.... plus, there are people with guns out there.

I wonder how many were killed and injured in Japan via car accidents. I would guess about the same ratio as with guns when compared to the US.
How many of those killed and injured
were targeted by the other driver?

How many people buy a car for the
express purpose of killing some one?

How many cars are designed to be efficient killing instruments?
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Banandangees
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Canada is in the top 7% of gun ownership per capita of those countries ranked. How many have bought those firearms intentionally to kill someone? Explain why Canada has so many guns. How many people in the US and Canada buy guns with no express purpose of killing someone?

Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally... that's why those people are prosecuted.

Cars are about as efficiently designed as pracital, yet they kill as many in one year (over 30,000) as Americans were killed in all the years of the Korean War.


Edited by Banandangees, Dec 9 2013, 08:59 PM.
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Mountainrivers
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Dec 9 2013, 08:57 PM
Canada is in the top 7% of gun ownership per capita of those countries ranked. How many have bought those firearms intentionally to kill someone? Explain why Canada has so many guns. How many people in the US and Canada buy guns with no express purpose of killing someone?

Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally... that's why those people are prosecuted.

Cars are about as efficiently designed as pracital, yet they kill as many in one year (over 30,000) as Americans were killed in all the years of the Korean War.


In most cases car wrecks are accidents. Not so with gun deaths.
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Dec 9 2013, 08:57 PM
Canada is in the top 7% of gun ownership per capita of those countries ranked. How many have bought those firearms intentionally to kill someone? Explain why Canada has so many guns. How many people in the US and Canada buy guns with no express purpose of killing someone?

Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally... that's why those people are prosecuted.

Cars are about as efficiently designed as pracital, yet they kill as many in one year (over 30,000) as Americans were killed in all the years of the Korean War.


"Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally.."

Have you ever been out to dinner, had a couple glasses of wine and driven home? If you did, you were impaired. Did you intend to kill someone as a result?
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Mountainrivers
Dec 9 2013, 09:22 PM
Banandangees
Dec 9 2013, 08:57 PM
Canada is in the top 7% of gun ownership per capita of those countries ranked. How many have bought those firearms intentionally to kill someone? Explain why Canada has so many guns. How many people in the US and Canada buy guns with no express purpose of killing someone?

Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally... that's why those people are prosecuted.

Cars are about as efficiently designed as pracital, yet they kill as many in one year (over 30,000) as Americans were killed in all the years of the Korean War.


In most cases car wrecks are accidents. Not so with gun deaths.
Then why aren't there more gun deaths per capita in Canada?
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Mountainrivers
Dec 9 2013, 09:27 PM
Banandangees
Dec 9 2013, 08:57 PM
Canada is in the top 7% of gun ownership per capita of those countries ranked. How many have bought those firearms intentionally to kill someone? Explain why Canada has so many guns. How many people in the US and Canada buy guns with no express purpose of killing someone?

Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally... that's why those people are prosecuted.

Cars are about as efficiently designed as pracital, yet they kill as many in one year (over 30,000) as Americans were killed in all the years of the Korean War.


"Of those killed in car accidents, how many were the result of another's drunken driving or reckless driving? There might as well have been intent as the cause was done intentionally.."

Have you ever been out to dinner, had a couple glasses of wine and driven home? If you did, you were impaired. Did you intend to kill someone as a result?

Well, where on the line of drinking do you credit being impaired enough to cause an accident.... but does it make a difference? What you did intentionally caused the death of another person.

But if you are intending to kill someone, do you go out and buy a car to do it?
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