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Nelson Mandela; Dead at 95
Topic Started: Dec 6 2013, 09:54 AM (1,881 Views)
Mountainrivers
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Dec 7 2013, 12:02 AM
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Dec 6 2013, 11:43 PM
Look up "necklacing" and tell me he and the ACA were not terrorists.
As far as him being a communist that is a given.
I haven't read anybody saying he wasn't a terrorist, however, one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. I see Mandela as a freedom fighter using the only real weapon he had, terrorism. Terrorism has been used nearly everywhere in the world where people fight oppression.
Read the first page of this thread.
Took your advice. You should reread the first page.
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Enough with your ignorance, ask Colo, Tom, Telco and WJ if they think he was a terrorist.
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Enough with your ignorance, ask Colo, Tom, Telco and WJ if they think he was a terrorist.
None of them said he wasn't. What's your point?
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Ask them and quit playing games.
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In the eyes of right wingers who support and supported Apartheid horrors and excesses, including icon, Ronald Reagan, he was a "terrorist." The overwhelming majority o Congress thought otherwise. That explains their veto override.

I ask again, what right wing group, even those neo-Nazis following the lead of right wing icon Hitler, openly opposed the horrors and excesses of Apartheid in South Africa?
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You're building a straw man again Colo but glad you told MR that you did not think he was a terrorist.
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Dec 6 2013, 11:36 AM
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Dec 6 2013, 10:20 AM
and a terrorist.
Yes, just like George Washington. Do you think you win freedom for your country by singing Kumbaya with your oppressors around a campfire? I suggest you burn any bills with Washington's picture on it, since he used some violence to bring his country (that is yours, BTW) to freedom as well. Are your really this naive?

BTW in 1998 I visited Robben Island where Mandela was imprisioned for 27 years. Even stood in his cell. They only supplied him with salt water to bathe with. If it had been me, I would have come out of there intending to kill every white man in sight. Instead he fought for reconciliation & a multi racial democracy. He was a great man.
OK, but from the perspective of the society and leaders you are a terrorist. Why get upset over reality.

"the kids a bastard" "oh but he is such a fine young boy with a loving family and parents" "yes, but his mom got knocked up by the gardner and her husband is not his father" "but, but, but" "he's a bastard"
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I didn't realize that there were so many experts in symantics on this board.
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Pat,

I not sure what it was you were trying to say with that dialogue about a "bastard." Please explain.
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Enough with your ignorance, ask Colo, Tom, Telco and WJ if they think he was a terrorist.
No he was a freedom fighter. He proved that by the way he acted after being jailed for 27 years. If Mandela was a terrorist, then so was Paul Revere, George Washignton and the Sons of Liberty in your own history.
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