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Given the deep/deepening recession, do you think it was wise
Topic Started: Nov 30 2013, 10:46 PM (3,485 Views)
colo_crawdad
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Yep, the more false propaganda the US right puts out about the ACA, the more people who are taken in by that false propaganda and therefore the more people who dislike the ACA. Excellent information, Pat.
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Sometimes I wish that the GOP never crafted Obamacare. We've got to get Pelosi and Reid out of there and get a couple of Democrats in.
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The Estimated Budgetary Impact of the ACA’s Coverage Provisions Has Changed Little on a Year-by-Year Basis Since March 2010
When estimates are compared on a year-by-year basis, CBO and JCT’s estimate of the net budgetary impact of the ACA’s insurance coverage provisions has changed little since February 2013 and, indeed, has changed little since the legislation was being considered in March 2010. In March 2010, CBO and JCT projected that the provisions of the ACA related to health insurance coverage would cost the federal government $759 billion during fiscal years 2014 through 2019 (which was the last year in the 10-year budget window being used at that time). The newest projections indicate that those provisions will cost $710 billion over that same period. As shown in the figure below, the intervening projections of the cost of the ACA’s coverage provisions for those years have all been close to those figures on a year-by-year basis; of course, the 10-year totals have changed as the time frame for the estimates has shifted.

Those amounts do not reflect the total budgetary impact of the ACA. That legislation includes many other provisions that, on net, will reduce budget deficits. Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 years and in the subsequent decade. (We have not updated our estimate of the total budgetary impact of the ACA since last summer; for that most recent estimate, see Letter to the Honorable John Boehner providing an estimate for H.R. 6079, the Repeal of Obamacare Act.)


http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

We had to do something about the run away costs. With the federal government already paying most of the health care dollars the current non-system was unsustainable. Granted single payer would have saved a lot more money and been more efficient. But, given the clout of big pharma and provider organizations, it was not going to happen. So, the ACA was the best they could do. Not perfect, but a start. Gripping about the expense of insuring the uninsured is shortsighted. The cost of their extremely inefficient health care is absorbed by all, and add to that personal bankruptcies etc. and it's even worse.
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Neutral
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Yep, those damn Reps voted it in, screwed up the web site, lied to people about the new taxes and lied again telling them it would be affordable.
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Dec 4 2013, 08:06 AM
Yet another Colo insult. lol
that's ok if Pat would punish you once for yours he would have a better board but Pat just talks and does nothing unless you are left leaning. If you are he wants to go back before his "new" forum rules and warn you for that

what a frigging joke doglaugh
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Quit whining Cappy, he should have banned you years ago.
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Dec 4 2013, 11:31 PM
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Dec 4 2013, 08:06 AM
Yet another Colo insult. lol
that's ok if Pat would punish you once for yours he would have a better board but Pat just talks and does nothing unless you are left leaning. If you are he wants to go back before his "new" forum rules and warn you for that

what a frigging joke doglaugh
Don''t I remember pat banning Neutral who was posting under a different screen name at the time? I wonder what has changed. Suppose he feels, using pat's words, Pat "cornered?"

Gawd, I miss the days of Fr. Mike's integrity in administrating this forum.
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Neutral
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So like it or leave it Colo. LOL

That's what you've told me a 100 times.
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Pat
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Remember this quote?

In September, Harry Reid told reporters---

"Let's stop these really juvenile political games -- the one dealing with health care for senators and House members and our staff. We are going to be part of exchanges, that's what the law says and we'll be part of that."

Guess whose staff has been exempted from Obamacare despite other congressional leaders instructing their staffs to use Obamacare? :smile:
Edited by Pat, Dec 5 2013, 05:25 AM.
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juvenile political games


Upon reaching this bit of blatant name calling, I stopped reading the apparently right wing propaganda piece.
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