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| Obama's Budget Abdication Breaks 92 Year Tradition | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 13 2013, 02:23 AM (614 Views) | |
| Thumper | Mar 13 2013, 05:22 AM Post #31 |
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So, Obama is not abiding by the law? Why isn't he challenged by the Senate or some special prosecuter? |
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| Pat | Mar 13 2013, 06:16 AM Post #32 |
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All true, but as with most legislation' both the senate and president provide their version so that the negotions can begin and reconcilliatin accomplished. Rember, the president can veto legislation, so it is important to see what he wants included or not. You will find this explained in the senate and house rules. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 13 2013, 08:40 AM Post #33 |
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Why does Neutral think that if the President follows the Constitution, he is derelict in his job? Generally, behavior that follows the Constitution is commendable not deselection. |
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| Neutral | Mar 13 2013, 08:48 AM Post #34 |
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LOL He is not following law Colo, why you can't grasp that is puzzling because it's been posted several times. |
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| Thumper | Mar 13 2013, 08:51 AM Post #35 |
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I understand that the Prez is to submit his budget as required by law. If he hasn't, he is breaking the law. Where is the argument??? |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 13 2013, 09:01 AM Post #36 |
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Neut, Do you think a law that clearly violates the constitution should be faithfully followed? BTW, please post the title, date and number of the "law" in question. Never mind. It is: USC › Title 31 › Subtitle II › Chapter 11 › § 1105prevnext..31 USC § 1105 - Budget contents and submission to Congress. That is the act of Congress unconstitutionally requires the President to do what the Constitution clearly mandates be done by the legislature. Frankly, I would rather the President adhere to the constitution and tell congress top do the hob for which they were elected. But it might be an interesting case to be brought before the Supreme Court. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 13 2013, 09:08 AM Post #37 |
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BTW, here is the entire law. Note that there is no indication of any enforcement provision or penalty if such budget is not submitted. USC › Title 31 › Subtitle II › Chapter 11 › § 1105prevnext..31 USC § 1105 - Budget contents and submission to Congress |
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| Pat | Mar 13 2013, 09:17 AM Post #38 |
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I think it is more directed to congressional needs, but none the less an important cog in the legislative process. Obama keeps claiming that the house is obstructing legislation, I think he needs to do his end in a timely manner. Four months into a second term is far from timely in my opinion. |
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| Neutral | Mar 13 2013, 09:46 AM Post #39 |
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You are correct, I don't know what Colo's argument is either. He is breaking the law and that is the subject. Why he gets by with it is the question I think you asked earlier Thumper. |
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| campingken | Mar 13 2013, 09:54 AM Post #40 |
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It isn't a law unless there is a penalty attached. |
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