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80% Of NYC HS Grads Can NOT Read
Topic Started: Mar 8 2013, 10:15 AM (916 Views)
colo_crawdad
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It appears that CBS wrote a false headline. Nothing in the article actually support that false claim.
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Banandangees
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Take out the title, now what do you see?
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colo_crawdad
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I see an article about colleges desiring higher skills than many of those graduates possess. I do not see any support for the assertion that "80% of high school graduates cannot read." The next question has to be whether or not any public school system should be responsible for preparing 100% of their graduates for collegiate honor courses. ( I know I used a bit of exaggeration there, just like the how some are attempting to use the article..
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I guess then that you doubt the school's findings. Perhaps the school used invalid data collection or inaccurate statistical tools in their measurements.
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I don't think that is what I said, but if it makes some feel better to say that, okay, yo go ahead and say it.
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Banandangees
Mar 8 2013, 08:11 PM
jcapps
Mar 8 2013, 01:02 PM
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Mar 8 2013, 12:51 PM
You don't think CBS is credible or are you saying they are right wing?
No, I was talking about you :haha:
I don't know why some are always ready to jump on Neut when he posts a legitimate thread. "Consider the source," if any read the short article they would know the source was CBS and the (NY) City University’s community college system. The title was a little misleading, not Neut. And as Tom writes (who apparently read the article) there are short comings in our city schools... kids are passed on (graduated) without certain skills for more advanced education and often lack even basics for technical skill training. Throwing money at it (education) hasn't been the answer, not without addressing the causes. Tom mentioned some as "social," parental and environmental; but, I think you have to be down in the thick of it to truly realize just how much "social," parental and environmental have been significant and growing causes. The bright side for Democrats is that it almost guarentees more future votes for their side.... if those young adults care to find where the polls are to cast their vote. The dark side for the country is a decreased ability for the US to be contributors to the world for good things.

We have praise for Chavez (God rest his soul) as a benign authoritative leader... he gives to the poor, not only Venezuela's poor, but to other SA nations... all from oil riches. But look at the economic state of Venezuela and other SA nations, not good; inflation is is double digit, some up in the 20% range; people are still poor and unemployment high. Crime and murder in SA is rampant. What happens to Venezuela and the nations Chavez gifted when the oil runs out? What are they prepared for? They aren't educated? Maybe we should take a good look at "benign, authoritarian leadership" and "nanny state" stability... we seem to be on that path in some respects.


Good thread Neut.
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colo_crawdad
Mar 8 2013, 10:38 PM
I don't think that is what I said, but if it makes some feel better to say that, okay, yo go ahead and say it.
But you suggested that you say "no support" for what the article was saying. You doubt comes from somewhere, where else but from the credibility of the NYC school/college assertions?
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Mar 8 2013, 10:52 PM
Banandangees
Mar 8 2013, 08:11 PM
jcapps
Mar 8 2013, 01:02 PM
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Mar 8 2013, 12:51 PM
You don't think CBS is credible or are you saying they are right wing?
No, I was talking about you :haha:
I don't know why some are always ready to jump on Neut when he posts a legitimate thread. "Consider the source," if any read the short article they would know the source was CBS and the (NY) City University’s community college system. The title was a little misleading, not Neut. And as Tom writes (who apparently read the article) there are short comings in our city schools... kids are passed on (graduated) without certain skills for more advanced education and often lack even basics for technical skill training. Throwing money at it (education) hasn't been the answer, not without addressing the causes. Tom mentioned some as "social," parental and environmental; but, I think you have to be down in the thick of it to truly realize just how much "social," parental and environmental have been significant and growing causes. The bright side for Democrats is that it almost guarentees more future votes for their side.... if those young adults care to find where the polls are to cast their vote. The dark side for the country is a decreased ability for the US to be contributors to the world for good things.

We have praise for Chavez (God rest his soul) as a benign authoritative leader... he gives to the poor, not only Venezuela's poor, but to other SA nations... all from oil riches. But look at the economic state of Venezuela and other SA nations, not good; inflation is is double digit, some up in the 20% range; people are still poor and unemployment high. Crime and murder in SA is rampant. What happens to Venezuela and the nations Chavez gifted when the oil runs out? What are they prepared for? They aren't educated? Maybe we should take a good look at "benign, authoritarian leadership" and "nanny state" stability... we seem to be on that path in some respects.


Good thread Neut.
Because he is a troll
I don't see where he started the thread as trolling. It wasn't a political thread. He didn't even make any comment with his initial post, just "pasted" the article.
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Mar 8 2013, 11:17 PM
jcapps
Mar 8 2013, 10:52 PM
Banandangees
Mar 8 2013, 08:11 PM
jcapps
Mar 8 2013, 01:02 PM
Neutral
Mar 8 2013, 12:51 PM
You don't think CBS is credible or are you saying they are right wing?
No, I was talking about you :haha:
I don't know why some are always ready to jump on Neut when he posts a legitimate thread. "Consider the source," if any read the short article they would know the source was CBS and the (NY) City University’s community college system. The title was a little misleading, not Neut. And as Tom writes (who apparently read the article) there are short comings in our city schools... kids are passed on (graduated) without certain skills for more advanced education and often lack even basics for technical skill training. Throwing money at it (education) hasn't been the answer, not without addressing the causes. Tom mentioned some as "social," parental and environmental; but, I think you have to be down in the thick of it to truly realize just how much "social," parental and environmental have been significant and growing causes. The bright side for Democrats is that it almost guarentees more future votes for their side.... if those young adults care to find where the polls are to cast their vote. The dark side for the country is a decreased ability for the US to be contributors to the world for good things.

We have praise for Chavez (God rest his soul) as a benign authoritative leader... he gives to the poor, not only Venezuela's poor, but to other SA nations... all from oil riches. But look at the economic state of Venezuela and other SA nations, not good; inflation is is double digit, some up in the 20% range; people are still poor and unemployment high. Crime and murder in SA is rampant. What happens to Venezuela and the nations Chavez gifted when the oil runs out? What are they prepared for? They aren't educated? Maybe we should take a good look at "benign, authoritarian leadership" and "nanny state" stability... we seem to be on that path in some respects.


Good thread Neut.
Because he is a troll
I don't see where he started the thread as trolling. It wasn't a political thread. He didn't even make any comment with his initial post, just "pasted" the article.
I think "just pasting the article" without comment is a sure sign of a troll.
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Banandangees
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It was about "education" for God sake. What's trolling about that? Explain.


If Neut somehow would have changed his sign-in name to Michelle O, you guy would have fallen all over the article saying, "probably a delayed outcome of the Rudi Giuliani years and something should be done about the poor education in NYC schools."
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