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| Holder: Drone Strikes Against Americans On U. S. Soil Are Legal | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 6 2013, 10:45 AM (1,125 Views) | |
| colo_crawdad | Mar 6 2013, 09:37 PM Post #11 |
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I wonder if some on the the right are projecting. Just because the Bush Administra released a statement that torture was legal and used that to justify the use of torture, doesn't mean that the Democrats, announcing that using drones against Americans is legal will then use drones against Americans. As Someone already posted, one has to look at the complete statements. On the other hand, I too can think of situations when the use of drones against Americans might be justified. For example if a group of right wing folks actually took up arms against their own freely elected government, and mine, paramilitary force ought to be met with military force. |
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| Mountainrivers | Mar 6 2013, 09:39 PM Post #12 |
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How about an airplane, hijacked by terrorists, on its way to crash into your house? Would that qualify? |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 6 2013, 09:41 PM Post #13 |
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BTW, since the US right has already willingly accepted and supported the use of warrant less searches as developed in the prior Administration, why would they be concerned with the use of drones for surveillance? After all, as some used to post on this forum, "if I have nothing to hide, why should I worry?" |
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| BUCK | Mar 6 2013, 09:51 PM Post #14 |
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MR, you are stretching the circumstances to the limit with your post. What about incidental damage and deaths on the ground due to the shooting down of the plane? |
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| Banandangees | Mar 6 2013, 10:01 PM Post #15 |
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Now there's a liberal conundrum, possible collateral damage. |
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| Mountainrivers | Mar 6 2013, 10:02 PM Post #16 |
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Well, you said you couldn't imagine any circumstance that would warrant the action we're talking about. That's one scenario. Well, we probably wouldn't want to shoot down an airplane to save your house and family, but what if it was headed for a NASCAR racetrack with a couple of hundred thousand people in attendance? Or, maybe a terrorist planted a suitcase nuke in a major city with a remote control and we knew where he was. Would that qualify? I can imagine a number of incidents that would qualify for hellfiring that someone who posed a major threat to a large number of people. |
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| Thumper | Mar 6 2013, 10:06 PM Post #17 |
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Robots are taking on all kinds of jobs to make it safer for law enforcement. Armed drones are just an extension of them. |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 6 2013, 10:19 PM Post #18 |
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You are correct Holder was talking "hypothetically" about terrorist attacks." |
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| Thumper | Mar 6 2013, 10:29 PM Post #19 |
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Holder's mistake was trying to have honest dialog with Rand Paul. Big mistake. |
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| tomdrobin | Mar 6 2013, 11:58 PM Post #20 |
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I would hope if there was an imminent threat like the destruction of a city & millions of lives, they would take the terrorist out with a drone strike before worrying about due process. Holder was talking hypothetically, but unfortunately gave the loony right some fodder for their spin machine. Edited by tomdrobin, Mar 6 2013, 11:59 PM.
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