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| Hugo Chavez dies | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 6 2013, 07:07 AM (1,197 Views) | |
| Deleted User | Mar 6 2013, 07:07 AM Post #1 |
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After a long fight with cancer at only 58. I never realized he was that young LINK |
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| Brewster | Mar 6 2013, 07:12 AM Post #2 |
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Seemed like he was around forever. It'll be interesting to see what changes that makes in Venezuelan policies. |
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| Neutral | Mar 6 2013, 09:41 AM Post #3 |
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Is the sun shining brighter? Oh yes, the USA gave him cancer too. LOL I suppose the libs buy into that too. Edited by Neutral, Mar 6 2013, 09:46 AM.
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| Thumper | Mar 6 2013, 09:51 AM Post #4 |
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Chavez was a champion for the poor and the downtrodden. |
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| Neutral | Mar 6 2013, 10:01 AM Post #5 |
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Interesting, any other libs want to praise Chavez? |
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| Pat | Mar 6 2013, 10:57 AM Post #6 |
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The guy nationalized and basically stole facilities, infrastructure and asset of oil companies. Similar to the other radical commie,Castro in Cuba. It is a lesson learned and one that has made financing and investing in countries in Latin America difficult to impossible. It the new leader is smart, he would make the companies whole. As with any death, I know his family and friends are suffering despite his warts, so I wish them the best. |
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| tomdrobin | Mar 6 2013, 12:42 PM Post #7 |
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I'm no expert on the man, but it seemed he villified the US to further this political ambitions |
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| Neutral | Mar 6 2013, 02:53 PM Post #8 |
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He died a billionaire, why if he was so great for the poor? |
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| Deleted User | Mar 6 2013, 09:35 PM Post #9 |
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Despite him being an irritant to the US, he was elected in fair elections and was extremely popular in Venezuela. The man was vilified by the US, so his anti-US rhetoric response, was understandable. He was not a despot although he could have become one. I do not see why Americans are so upset when countries decide to set their own course. Is it because he decided that the countries resources belonged to Venezuelan people, not the American based multinationals? America is not the only country entitled to have self determination and control over its resources. Had he suspended free elections, he would have deserved all the criticisms he got, however simply choosing a political flavor that you do not like is no reason to condemn him. Chavez was loud mouthed and some of his policies were not exactly democratic, but he certainly was no where near as bad as many leaders the US has supported in the past like the Shah, Noriega, Mubarak, Marcos, Somoza, Hussein, Pinochet, to name but a few. All of those named, suspended free elections, Chavez never did. In fact by all measures his elections were free & fair. LINK Such is the state of misrepresentation of Venezuela – it is probably the most lied-about country in the world – that a journalist can say almost anything about Chávez or his government and it is unlikely to be challenged, so long as it is negative. Even worse, Rather referred to Chávez as "the dictator" – a term that few, if any, political scientists familiar with the country would countenance. Here is what Jimmy Carter said about Venezuela's "dictatorship" a few weeks ago: "As a matter of fact, of the 92 elections that we've monitored, I would say that the election process in Venezuela is the best in the world." Carter won a Nobel prize for his work through the election-monitoring Carter Center, which has observed and certified past Venezuelan elections. But because Washington has sought for more than a decade to delegitimise Venezuela's government, his viewpoint is only rarely reported. His latest comments went unreported in almost all of the US media. In Venezuela, voters touch a computer screen to cast their vote and then receive a paper receipt, which they verify and deposit in a ballot box. Most of the paper ballots are compared with the electronic tally. This system makes vote-rigging nearly impossible: to steal the vote would require hacking the computers and then stuffing the ballot boxes to match the rigged vote. Unlike in the US, where in a close vote we really have no idea who won (see Bush v Gore), Venezuelans can be sure that their vote counts. And also unlike the US, where as many as 90 million eligible voters will not vote in November, the government in Venezuela has done everything to increase voter registration (now at a record of about 97%) and participation. |
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| Deleted User | Mar 6 2013, 09:43 PM Post #10 |
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One other thing: Living standards of the majority of Venezuelans have vastly improved under Chavez. That is the measure he should be judged by, not whether the US government liked him or not. |
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