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Topic Started: Mar 3 2013, 08:34 AM (2,421 Views)
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colo_crawdad
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Mar 5 2013, 01:25 AM
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I am not going back through the thread. Several posts from folks who Neutral classifies as "libs" have been obvious attempts to discount, discredit, or reduce the significance of the Holocaust. If the shoe fits you . . .. Otherwise, why argue about it?
Because you have insinuated something that isn't true. That doesn't sound like you, but your refusal to post references to such accusations says something about you. Sorry,but I "insinuated" nothing. I was upfront is saying that some folks who Neutral classifies as "libs" have posted hate on this thread. I stand by that direct and open statement.
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Mountainrivers
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Mar 5 2013, 01:27 AM
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I am not going back through the thread. Several posts from folks who Neutral classifies as "libs" have been obvious attempts to discount, discredit, or reduce the significance of the Holocaust. If the shoe fits you . . .. Otherwise, why argue about it?
Because you have insinuated something that isn't true. That doesn't sound like you, but your refusal to post references to such accusations says something about you.
Sorry,but I "insinuated" nothing. I was upfront is saying that some folks who Neutral classifies as "libs" have posted hate on this thread. I stand by that direct and open statement. Then you are wrong and I have lost a lot of respect for you. Not that you would care, as is obvious by reading many of your other posts.
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Banandangees
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Mar 5 2013, 01:28 AM
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- Mar 5 2013, 12:31 AM
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- Mar 5 2013, 12:28 AM
- tomdrobin
- Mar 4 2013, 11:37 PM
- Neutral
- Mar 4 2013, 11:25 PM
Sorry but what I've read on this board is hate from some libs.
Hate for ignorance and pity for those who buy into the scam perpetrated by right wing media.
As I see it, Tom (Neutral) is correct bout hate on this thread and Tom (Tomdrobin) is correct about this forum in general. Most of the hate on this forum tends to come from the right while hate on this specific thread seems to be coming from some of the folks that Neutral would classify as "libs."
I'm disappointed in you for characterizing my opinion about the actions of the Israeli government as being hate. Please explain yourself, if you can.
Read Ban's description of what happened in Germany. Any post attempting to discredit or belittle or reduce the significance of what happened in Germany is fueled by hatred.
Who has done that, Colo? EXAMPLE PLEASE.
Then why dost thou protest so much when a topic of the Jews comes up..... something you have always done. But to your question to Colo, I think you did that by diverting to other atrocities such as in Africa and the middle east which have nothing to do with what the Nasis did to the Jews in the 30s and early 40s in Eruope, which gives the appearance of what happened to the Jews during that time as not being uncommon; your defense of the Palestinians; your past complaints of "rich, influencial Jews" in the US. Most Jews in the US that I know, and I grew up around many, are far from wealthy. So why negatively associate the influence of rich Jews with ALL Jews.... why not just reflect negatively on rich, influencial people?
We aren't talking about rich, influential people, we are talking about rich, influential Jews. It's obvious that you don't want to equate the holocaust to other genocides. Why is that? I don't and have never equated Zionists to all Jews and you can't show where I have. So stop making up stuff. How can I discuss all genocides in one thread. In the past, on several occasions I brought up Pol Pot and the mass killings in Cambodia. On several occasions I brought up the genocide in the Sudan and Gen. Colin Powell's wish for the US to get involved with helping those people. You can't talk about all things at all times. This time I brought up the holocaust because it was a very recent article on the AOL-Huffington Post web site. I'll have to say, I didn't see any counterpoint posts from you when I brought up those other atrocities that I posted about.
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Neutral
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Mar 5 2013, 01:28 AM
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Why do you keep saying "Neutral classifies as libs"? LOL Is that some sort of bait?
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colo_crawdad
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Mar 5 2013, 01:29 AM
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Here is a list of posts on this thread that have been obvious attempts to discount, discredit, or reduce the significance of the Holocaust.
1, 9, 18, 21, 23. 24, and 33.
You've apparently gone over to the dark side on this topic, Colo. Questioning why some only think the holocaust in Germany was worth mentioning is somehow "hatred"? And, commenting on the Zionist lobby in the US, which has resulted in numerous problems for the US, is "hatred"? You really are confused. As I said earlier, if the shoe fits . . .. Otherwise you can quit protesting in order to avoid Shakespeare's comment that "methinks he doth protest too much."
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Banandangees
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Mar 5 2013, 01:33 AM
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I am not going back through the thread. Several posts from folks who Neutral classifies as "libs" have been obvious attempts to discount, discredit, or reduce the significance of the Holocaust. If the shoe fits you . . .. Otherwise, why argue about it?
Because you have insinuated something that isn't true. That doesn't sound like you, but your refusal to post references to such accusations says something about you.
Sorry,but I "insinuated" nothing. I was upfront is saying that some folks who Neutral classifies as "libs" have posted hate on this thread. I stand by that direct and open statement.
Then you are wrong and I have lost a lot of respect for you. Not that you would care, as is obvious by reading many of your other posts. That's what happened to left leaning Bob Woodward of the Washington Post when he stated what he thought to be obviously true, some other more far left liberals "lost respect" for him. Colo is not in bad company.
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Pat
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Mar 5 2013, 01:33 AM
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My question is simple. has mankind learned a thing since the holocaust in Nazi Germany? It doesn't appear so, we have them going on as I type and nothing substantial being done to stop them. Africa is a nightmare. Cambodia happened before the world's eyes. I have friends who lost family in Russia, Poland and Germany.
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Mountainrivers
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Mar 5 2013, 01:37 AM
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- colo_crawdad
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- Mar 5 2013, 12:28 AM
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- Mar 4 2013, 11:37 PM
- Neutral
- Mar 4 2013, 11:25 PM
Sorry but what I've read on this board is hate from some libs.
Hate for ignorance and pity for those who buy into the scam perpetrated by right wing media.
As I see it, Tom (Neutral) is correct bout hate on this thread and Tom (Tomdrobin) is correct about this forum in general. Most of the hate on this forum tends to come from the right while hate on this specific thread seems to be coming from some of the folks that Neutral would classify as "libs."
I'm disappointed in you for characterizing my opinion about the actions of the Israeli government as being hate. Please explain yourself, if you can.
Read Ban's description of what happened in Germany. Any post attempting to discredit or belittle or reduce the significance of what happened in Germany is fueled by hatred.
Who has done that, Colo? EXAMPLE PLEASE.
Then why dost thou protest so much when a topic of the Jews comes up..... something you have always done. But to your question to Colo, I think you did that by diverting to other atrocities such as in Africa and the middle east which have nothing to do with what the Nasis did to the Jews in the 30s and early 40s in Eruope, which gives the appearance of what happened to the Jews during that time as not being uncommon; your defense of the Palestinians; your past complaints of "rich, influencial Jews" in the US. Most Jews in the US that I know, and I grew up around many, are far from wealthy. So why negatively associate the influence of rich Jews with ALL Jews.... why not just reflect negatively on rich, influencial people?
We aren't talking about rich, influential people, we are talking about rich, influential Jews. It's obvious that you don't want to equate the holocaust to other genocides. Why is that? I don't and have never equated Zionists to all Jews and you can't show where I have. So stop making up stuff.
How can I discuss all genocides in one thread. In the past, on several occasions I brought up Pol Pot and the mass killings in Cambodia. On several occasions I brought up the genocide in the Sudan and Gen. Colin Powell's wish for the US to get involved with helping those people. You can't talk about all things at all times. This time I brought up the holocaust because it was a very recent article on the AOL-Huffington Post web site. I'll have to say, I didn't see any counterpoint posts from you when I brought up those other atrocities that I posted about. I don't remember your bringing up those atrocities. You'll have to refer me to something more definite.
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colo_crawdad
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Mar 5 2013, 01:38 AM
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Why do you keep saying "Neutral classifies as libs"? LOL Is that some sort of bait? No, it is just descriptive. Did you think it was bad for me to support your view?
Mountain Rivers,
You may have lost respect for me, but that's how your posts read to me, as an attempt to reduce the significance of the Holocaust. n If you want me to lie and say they didn't not strike me that way, I will not do so. If I did you would have reason to lose respect for me.
If your posts were not hate fueled, I apologize. But, I still feel those poos ts and others like them do fuel hatred.
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Mountainrivers
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Mar 5 2013, 01:44 AM
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Why do you keep saying "Neutral classifies as libs"? LOL Is that some sort of bait?
No, it is just descriptive. Did you think it was bad for me to support your view? Mountain Rivers, You may have lost respect for me, but that's how your posts read to me, as an attempt to reduce the significance of the Holocaust. n If you want me to lie and say they didn't not strike me that way, I will not do so. If I did you would have reason to lose respect for me. If your posts were not hate fueled, I apologize. But, I still feel those poos ts and others like them do fuel hatred. I think that's because you, like Ban and many others, have been indoctrinated nearly all of your life to accept that the extermination of Jews was somehow worse than the extermination of other groups of people. It shows, to me, that you have been taken in by the very people you support. I have never said anything negative about Jews in general. My criticism has been toward the Zionist movement and the actions of the Israeli government. In several of these discussions I have expressed admiration for Jews as intelligent, competent, citizens of this country and my belief that we would be considerable worse off without them. So, if my posts offend you, don't read them.
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