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Numbers are 'Unbelievable'
Topic Started: Mar 3 2013, 08:34 AM (2,425 Views)
Banandangees
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Mountainrivers
Mar 4 2013, 08:46 PM
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Mar 4 2013, 05:26 AM
Maybe it was the manner in which the Jews were murdered, if numbers aren't the impressive thing for some. Maybe it was the "intelligent," systematic action by supposedly very intelligent people, in rounding up banded people, branding them like cattle, many who were the very, very poor in the ghettos of Europe (our people in our ghettos better look forward to their possible fate by our very intelligent people if they become too big a burden), loading them systematically in cattle cars, transporting them to camps that were specifically and ingeniously designed to exterminate in a manner seen only in animal slaughter houses, segregating them by race, age and gender, perform medical experiments on them including children, herd them into supposed shower rooms, gassing them to death, burning their bodies in furnaces, shooting others along side holes/mass graves that other Jews were made to dig, burying some alive ..... and, intelligently have no apparent conscience about it and then we say...... "How long are these Jews going to ride this holocaust thing," Or, look over here, is it really that bad?

PATHETIC!
Since so many have been taken in by them, it must be comforting to be brain washed by the master propagandists of religion, big business, neo-conservatives and the Zionist lobby. It's "unbelievable" that so many have fallen for the ruses perpetrated by those groups. But, as Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute".
More BS from MR the anti-Semite... who loves poor people.. selective poor people.. ones who look and think like him.... only poor.
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Mar 4 2013, 09:06 PM
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Mar 4 2013, 08:40 AM
For millenium, the Jews have been "picked on". Perhaps they should take stock of things and join the rest of the human race as equals.
But that's the point Thump, most all the Jews in Europe were like the rest of the human Europe at the time. Most poor, especially the eastern European Jews; and, you know how our liberals in this country sympathize and verbally care for the poor. A few were rich, those were more in western Europe... like non-Jews. Some were orthodox Jews some not... like some catholics were orthodox and some not"

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..some worked as farmers, tailors, seamstresses, factory hands, accountants, doctors, teachers, and small-business owners. Some families were wealthy; many more were poor. Many children ended their schooling early to work in a craft or trade (like many kids in the Pennsylvania coal regions during that same date and time); others looked forward to continuing their education at the university level. Still, whatever their differences, they were the same in one respect: by the 1930s, with the rise of the Nazis to power in Germany, they all became potential victims, and their lives were forever changed.


And all the anti-Semites on the forum brought up, "but others were killed... like homosexuals, gypsies..." probably because they were homosexuals and because they were gypsies; but my original post asked the question, "what did THESE common people do that they deserved to be so systematically murdered? Two out of three Jews were murdered. Two thirds of their population..... most were not shot in the street or hacked with machetes, or killed fighting a war, or by suicide bomber or nuked. They were labeled, branded, herded into cattle cars, delivered to facilities ingenuously engineered for extermination, subjected to surgical medical research studies, gases and burned, shot at grave site and/or buried alive. Dead is dead; but, somehow all that seems different from the run-of-the-mill genocide. What was the reason? What did they do to deserve all that maticulously engineered mass murder?.... I mean what beside just plain HATE?

I suspect that all genocides are motivated by "plain hate". Trying to single out one group for more sympathy is absurd just because you've been indoctrinated since you were a child that Jews are God's chosen people. No one is arguing that the holocaust wasn't a terrible thing, but it is just one of many. We question why you and people like you are so ready to decry the genocide perpetrated against the Jews and are not as ready to decry the others. I've said I think it is because you have been brain-washed into thinking that the Jewish holocaust was memorable and the others aren't. I stand by that opinion. You can offer no reason why one is worse than any other.
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Mar 4 2013, 09:09 PM
Mountainrivers
Mar 4 2013, 08:46 PM
Banandangees
Mar 4 2013, 05:26 AM
Maybe it was the manner in which the Jews were murdered, if numbers aren't the impressive thing for some. Maybe it was the "intelligent," systematic action by supposedly very intelligent people, in rounding up banded people, branding them like cattle, many who were the very, very poor in the ghettos of Europe (our people in our ghettos better look forward to their possible fate by our very intelligent people if they become too big a burden), loading them systematically in cattle cars, transporting them to camps that were specifically and ingeniously designed to exterminate in a manner seen only in animal slaughter houses, segregating them by race, age and gender, perform medical experiments on them including children, herd them into supposed shower rooms, gassing them to death, burning their bodies in furnaces, shooting others along side holes/mass graves that other Jews were made to dig, burying some alive ..... and, intelligently have no apparent conscience about it and then we say...... "How long are these Jews going to ride this holocaust thing," Or, look over here, is it really that bad?

PATHETIC!
Since so many have been taken in by them, it must be comforting to be brain washed by the master propagandists of religion, big business, neo-conservatives and the Zionist lobby. It's "unbelievable" that so many have fallen for the ruses perpetrated by those groups. But, as Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute".
More BS from MR the anti-Semite... who loves poor people.. selective poor people.. ones who look and think like him.... only poor.
"More BS from MR the anti-Semite... who loves poor people.. selective poor people.. ones who look and think like him.... only poor. "

More BS from Ban, the brain-washed...who loves Zionists who oppress Palestinians, take their property, kill them at random, and who think like him, only Jewish.
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Why don't you try answering my original question MR instead of bringing the Palestinians in and every other diversion from the theme of the thread.
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Mar 4 2013, 09:23 PM
Why don't you try answering my original question MR instead of bringing the Palestinians in and every other diversion from the theme of the thread.
I'll post whatever I choose, Ban.
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Mar 4 2013, 09:23 PM
Why don't you try answering my original question MR instead of bringing the Palestinians in and every other diversion from the theme of the thread.
You were the first to divert from the topic, Ban. Here's where you did it on page one.

"You will never admit it but that is exactly what Obama has been doing (but in a not so "mild" version), and especially during his state by state campaigning recently.

If you live in a glass house, don't throw stones.
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Mar 4 2013, 08:40 AM
For millenium, the Jews have been "picked on". Perhaps they should take stock of things and join the rest of the human race as equals.
But that's the point Thump, most all the Jews in Europe were like the rest of the human Europe at the time. Most poor, especially the eastern European Jews; and, you know how our liberals in this country sympathize and verbally care for the poor. A few were rich, those were more in western Europe... like non-Jews. Some were orthodox Jews some not... like some catholics were orthodox and some not"

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..some worked as farmers, tailors, seamstresses, factory hands, accountants, doctors, teachers, and small-business owners. Some families were wealthy; many more were poor. Many children ended their schooling early to work in a craft or trade (like many kids in the Pennsylvania coal regions during that same date and time); others looked forward to continuing their education at the university level. Still, whatever their differences, they were the same in one respect: by the 1930s, with the rise of the Nazis to power in Germany, they all became potential victims, and their lives were forever changed.


And all the anti-Semites on the forum brought up, "but others were killed... like homosexuals, gypsies..." probably because they were homosexuals and because they were gypsies; but my original post asked the question, "what did THESE common people do that they deserved to be so systematically murdered? Two out of three Jews were murdered. Two thirds of their population..... most were not shot in the street or hacked with machetes, or killed fighting a war, or by suicide bomber or nuked. They were labeled, branded, herded into cattle cars, delivered to facilities ingenuously engineered for extermination, subjected to surgical medical research studies, gases and burned, shot at grave site and/or buried alive. Dead is dead; but, somehow all that seems different from the run-of-the-mill genocide. What was the reason? What did they do to deserve all that maticulously engineered mass murder?.... I mean what beside just plain HATE?

Good question Why the hate? If I was a Jew I would try to find out the "why" and try to improve my relationship with the rest of the human world. They obviously just piss people off. They do me.
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The "why" was Hitler wanted a superior race and he didn't think the Jews measured up. I thought everyone knew that.

Now the why is why do some on this board hate them? What did they do to you?
Edited by Neutral, Mar 4 2013, 10:39 PM.
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Mar 4 2013, 10:37 PM
The "why" was Hitler wanted a superior race and he didn't think the Jews measured up. I thought everyone knew that.

Now the why is why do some on this board hate them? What did they do to you?
You confuse hate with disagreement.
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Mar 4 2013, 10:37 PM
The "why" was Hitler wanted a superior race and he didn't think the Jews measured up. I thought everyone knew that.

Now the why is why do some on this board hate them? What did they do to you?
Ab additional "why" is that the right wing Nazis nee ed a scapegoat much like the right wing of today attempting blame all problems either on the undocumented workers or on the "libs." Thank goodness the world finally became aware of Hitler's games and hopefully are rapidly becoming aware of the similar games of the American hard right.
Edited by colo_crawdad, Mar 4 2013, 10:55 PM.
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