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Numbers are 'Unbelievable'
Topic Started: Mar 3 2013, 08:34 AM (2,426 Views)
campingken
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What's "Pathetic?" You said that you wanted to see evidence that the Nazi's systematic killed others besides the Jews. I provided what you requested. This does not diminish what they did to the Jews.

You think that Obama is a "closet Hitler?" Did a voice in your head tell you this?
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campingken
Mar 4 2013, 08:14 AM
What's "Pathetic?" You said that you wanted to see evidence that the Nazi's systematic killed others besides the Jews. I provided what you requested. This does not diminish what they did to the Jews.

You think that Obama is a "closet Hitler?" Did a voice in your head tell you this?
Perhaps I was wrong, but I thought that Ban was saying that the state4ments such as "'How long are these Jews going to ride this holocaust thing,' Or, look over here, is it really that bad?" was the pathetic thing. (I hope I punctuated that so it is understandable.)

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For millenium, the Jews have been "picked on". Perhaps they should take stock of things and join the rest of the human race as equals.
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I see the anti Semitic posts sentiment is alive and well.
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Newt did you know that right wing blog, Canada Free Press, uses a lawyer who is famous for defending Nazi war criminal & holocaust deniers like Ernst Zundel?

I am not sure if you have ever quoted them but on the other forum they are continually quoted by right wingers.
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Now on the holocaust, as horrible as it was we have seen similar things happen in Cambodia, Rwanda & Bosnia since then.
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So you say, I have never heard that and it does not excuse anti semetic posts. Racists posts are supposed to be against Zeta rules btw.
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what was anti-Semitic? Thumps post? In some ways he is right. Jews are not the only race that have been targeted for genocide, but they do act like they are at times. Many get upset if any other group uses the term holocaust. What was done to the Bosnians by the Serbs or the Tutsis by the Hutus is really not better or worse than what was done to the Jews by the Nazis and as someone else pointed out the Nazis also did the same to other ethic groups like Gypsies, although not on the same scale..
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Mar 4 2013, 05:26 AM
Maybe it was the manner in which the Jews were murdered, if numbers aren't the impressive thing for some. Maybe it was the "intelligent," systematic action by supposedly very intelligent people, in rounding up banded people, branding them like cattle, many who were the very, very poor in the ghettos of Europe (our people in our ghettos better look forward to their possible fate by our very intelligent people if they become too big a burden), loading them systematically in cattle cars, transporting them to camps that were specifically and ingeniously designed to exterminate in a manner seen only in animal slaughter houses, segregating them by race, age and gender, perform medical experiments on them including children, herd them into supposed shower rooms, gassing them to death, burning their bodies in furnaces, shooting others along side holes/mass graves that other Jews were made to dig, burying some alive ..... and, intelligently have no apparent conscience about it and then we say...... "How long are these Jews going to ride this holocaust thing," Or, look over here, is it really that bad?

PATHETIC!
Since so many have been taken in by them, it must be comforting to be brain washed by the master propagandists of religion, big business, neo-conservatives and the Zionist lobby. It's "unbelievable" that so many have fallen for the ruses perpetrated by those groups. But, as Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute".
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Mar 4 2013, 08:40 AM
For millenium, the Jews have been "picked on". Perhaps they should take stock of things and join the rest of the human race as equals.
But that's the point Thump, most all the Jews in Europe were like the rest of the human Europe at the time. Most poor, especially the eastern European Jews; and, you know how our liberals in this country sympathize and verbally care for the poor. A few were rich, those were more in western Europe... like non-Jews. Some were orthodox Jews some not... like some catholics were orthodox and some not"

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..some worked as farmers, tailors, seamstresses, factory hands, accountants, doctors, teachers, and small-business owners. Some families were wealthy; many more were poor. Many children ended their schooling early to work in a craft or trade (like many kids in the Pennsylvania coal regions during that same date and time); others looked forward to continuing their education at the university level. Still, whatever their differences, they were the same in one respect: by the 1930s, with the rise of the Nazis to power in Germany, they all became potential victims, and their lives were forever changed.


And all the anti-Semites on the forum brought up, "but others were killed... like homosexuals, gypsies..." probably because they were homosexuals and because they were gypsies; but my original post asked the question, "what did THESE common people do that they deserved to be so systematically murdered? Two out of three Jews were murdered. Two thirds of their population..... most were not shot in the street or hacked with machetes, or killed fighting a war, or by suicide bomber or nuked. They were labeled, branded, herded into cattle cars, delivered to facilities ingenuously engineered for extermination, subjected to surgical medical research studies, gases and burned, shot at grave site and/or buried alive. Dead is dead; but, somehow all that seems different from the run-of-the-mill genocide. What was the reason? What did they do to deserve all that maticulously engineered mass murder?.... I mean what beside just plain HATE?

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