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| The sequestered figures for each agency broke down; a good overview of where our money goes | |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 3 2013, 10:41 PM Post #21 |
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Pat, Since when is blaming the Party who had a majority in both the Senate and the House for passing legislation "arguing semantics?" You are the one blaming the President for legislation passed by Republican majorities in both the Senate and the House. Deny that those majorities successfully and I will also place the blame on the President. Until then, you will remain the party on this forum who is "game playing." |
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| Thumper | Mar 3 2013, 10:42 PM Post #22 |
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We call those entitlements or vote buying. |
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| Mountainrivers | Mar 3 2013, 10:43 PM Post #23 |
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I see, your argument is a political one. |
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| tomdrobin | Mar 3 2013, 10:46 PM Post #24 |
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Yup, the only entity to guarantee those "natural rights" is government. But, some would have you believe a strong government takes away those rights. Now which is it? It wasn't small or limited government that freed the slaves and supported the civil rights movement. And, it wasn't little government that kept people from starving during the great depression, or defeated Hitler and Japan. Nor was it limited government that created the space program, the national highway system and invested in the gold standard for higher education and research and development. The big government is evil scam has been perpetrated by those who don't like paying the bills. |
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| Mountainrivers | Mar 3 2013, 10:47 PM Post #25 |
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 4 2013, 12:01 AM Post #26 |
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Pat, Research suggests that your belief that the President alone is to blame for the sequester is out of line with the thinking of about 60% of Americans. Do you think all those folks are "arguing semantics" or just "playing games?"
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| Brewster | Mar 4 2013, 01:01 AM Post #27 |
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Whether or not the President (or his staff, actually) wrote the Sequester is quite irrelevant. it would not have happened if the party of "No" had not opposed every single rational suggestion. And they then voted for the bill, with Boehner claiming he got "98% of what I wanted". Now that it's come to pass, every Republican who can find a microphone is claiming they opposed it from the start, and it's all Obama's fault. Hypocrites. The Tea Party Theme Song: Edited by Brewster, Mar 4 2013, 01:17 AM.
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| colo_crawdad | Mar 4 2013, 02:38 AM Post #28 |
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I guess that means that no Republicans voted for it, even in the Republican controlled House. |
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| Brewster | Mar 4 2013, 02:39 AM Post #29 |
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| Pat | Mar 4 2013, 03:17 AM Post #30 |
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All spending is a result of a law Tom. And I would argue that entitlements are discretionary spending if you review the nation's history. All spending is. I think if you were to place all the spending cards on the table, and take away the gnashing of teeth and rhetoric, you could view it from a unemotional and logical position. Obama has been in o0ffice for four years, spending during that time has increased 20%, the debt by $6 trillion, with no end in site until Friday. Now that my friends is insane, and to get upset when a mere 2.5% of the spending is cut back is absurd. The sky is not falling as you can see and it won't despite dire warning of a few weeks down the road. Means test entitlements and the problem lessons if not goes away. Increase payroll taxes and you begin to offset the affects of having underfunded future obligations. Everybody with a brain knew the baby boomers were coming and have known it for 60+ years. Since lie expectancy has not changed much, push the age for medicare to 70 and watch life expectancy drop. Christ, 60% of adults are obese in this country, deal with that and again you affect medicare outlays. Far more than any number crunching. |
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