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The sequestered figures for each agency broke down; a good overview of where our money goes
Topic Started: Mar 3 2013, 12:52 AM (1,439 Views)
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http://www.docstoc.com/docs/147463171/OMB-REPORT-TO-THE-CONGRESS--ON-THE-JOINT-COMMITTEE-SEQUESTRATION--FOR-FISCAL-YEAR-2013

The government released the documents today so take a stroll and see where the cuts are. And see how many areas the government has their nose in. If it were me, I would lob off 100% in many.
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Mar 3 2013, 12:52 AM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/147463171/OMB-REPORT-TO-THE-CONGRESS--ON-THE-JOINT-COMMITTEE-SEQUESTRATION--FOR-FISCAL-YEAR-2013

The government released the documents today so take a stroll and see where the cuts are. And see how many areas the government has their nose in. If it were me, I would lob off 100% in many.
Have to register to read it. Not gonna do that.
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Mountainrivers
Mar 3 2013, 12:57 AM
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Mar 3 2013, 12:52 AM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/147463171/OMB-REPORT-TO-THE-CONGRESS--ON-THE-JOINT-COMMITTEE-SEQUESTRATION--FOR-FISCAL-YEAR-2013

The government released the documents today so take a stroll and see where the cuts are. And see how many areas the government has their nose in. If it were me, I would lob off 100% in many.
Have to register to read it. Not gonna do that.
I didn't. I clicked on the enlarge feature and read the report right from the article.
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Mar 3 2013, 12:59 AM
Mountainrivers
Mar 3 2013, 12:57 AM
Pat
Mar 3 2013, 12:52 AM
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/147463171/OMB-REPORT-TO-THE-CONGRESS--ON-THE-JOINT-COMMITTEE-SEQUESTRATION--FOR-FISCAL-YEAR-2013

The government released the documents today so take a stroll and see where the cuts are. And see how many areas the government has their nose in. If it were me, I would lob off 100% in many.
Have to register to read it. Not gonna do that.
I didn't. I clicked on the enlarge feature and read the report right from the article.
Your computer must be a lot faster than mine. it takes forever to move from place to place. But,as for the cuts, which items would you lop off 100% and why?
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The document within the page has the info, you just have to click on it and scroll down. It's a long list. Definitely a meat axe approach. My concern is that pulling this much money out of the economy will slow the recovery or worse yet reverse it.

It's not good to make snap judgement on whether a program is necessary or not. No doubt some can be eliminated or combined, but that requires some research.

I think this paranoia about debt is counterproductive. We need stimulus now, and long term austerity.
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Mar 3 2013, 03:23 AM
The document within the page has the info, you just have to click on it and scroll down. It's a long list. Definitely a meat axe approach. My concern is that pulling this much money out of the economy will slow the recovery or worse yet reverse it.

It's not good to make snap judgement on whether a program is necessary or not. No doubt some can be eliminated or combined, but that requires some research.

I think this paranoia about debt is counterproductive. We need stimulus now, and long term austerity.
You'll have to ask Obama and his team why those programs were selected. It was his plan.
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Mar 3 2013, 07:02 AM
tomdrobin
Mar 3 2013, 03:23 AM
The document within the page has the info, you just have to click on it and scroll down. It's a long list. Definitely a meat axe approach. My concern is that pulling this much money out of the economy will slow the recovery or worse yet reverse it.

It's not good to make snap judgement on whether a program is necessary or not. No doubt some can be eliminated or combined, but that requires some research.

I think this paranoia about debt is counterproductive. We need stimulus now, and long term austerity.
You'll have to ask Obama and his team why those programs were selected. It was his plan.
Pat,

You keep saying that it was Obama's plan even though it was passed when the Republicans held the majority in both the House and the Senate. It appears to be more of a Republican plan than Obama's plan.
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Mar 3 2013, 07:23 AM
Pat
Mar 3 2013, 07:02 AM
tomdrobin
Mar 3 2013, 03:23 AM
The document within the page has the info, you just have to click on it and scroll down. It's a long list. Definitely a meat axe approach. My concern is that pulling this much money out of the economy will slow the recovery or worse yet reverse it.

It's not good to make snap judgement on whether a program is necessary or not. No doubt some can be eliminated or combined, but that requires some research.

I think this paranoia about debt is counterproductive. We need stimulus now, and long term austerity.
You'll have to ask Obama and his team why those programs were selected. It was his plan.
Pat,

You keep saying that it was Obama's plan even though it was passed when the Republicans held the majority in both the House and the Senate. It appears to be more of a Republican plan than Obama's plan.
Yes I do say that and stick by my posts. The joint committee was deadlocked and could not come up with a agreement. The president gave the senate and house the means to go forward through his sequestor. If you are now arguing symatics then you are game playing. The agreed upon drop dead date came and congress had still not come to a agreement on dealing with the dept and spending. So the cuts and areas to be cut in the president's squestor plan have taken affect. If you disagree with any specific cut, take your complaint to the guy who chose it. The plan was set in stone and congress was told it was non negotiable. All well documented.


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I'm watching the Chris Matthews Sunday Morning show as I write this. Dan Rather is on the panel with the other Sunday Morning Show regulars. The major topic is "Entitlements" and how they aren't involved in the "sequester cuts," that the sequester cuts are "disproportional discretionary cuts."

They are discussing the need for "entitlement cuts" and the future if these cuts aren't made. The ironic thing is, these "news panels" for the most part have been silent on the "urgent need for entitlement cuts"..... until now. One panel member said we are all "socialists"... from birth. We have the need to be taken care of, he said. Dan Rather said it will require "leadership" to bring us out of it. The lady panelist (British.. what else) said health care entitlements are a major problem here and in Europe as far as debt and deficit go. They talked about raising the Medicare age to 70. They talked about the Medicaid entitlement. They talked about cuts in services. WHY NOW is the Chris Matthews show stressing the importance of "entitlement cuts?"

Dan Rather spoke of a missed opportunity and leadership.... funny, Mitt Romney just spoke on Fox about "a missed opportunity" on the same topic.

Why now does the big issue becomes "entitlements?" Where was this urgency before?

Of course, there must be a punch line down the road.
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Mar 3 2013, 08:58 PM
I'm watching the Chris Matthews Sunday Morning show as I write this. Dan Rather is on the panel with the other Sunday Morning Show regulars. The major topic is "Entitlements" and how they aren't involved in the "sequester cuts," that the sequester cuts are "disproportional discretionary cuts."

They are discussing the need for "entitlement cuts" and the future if these cuts aren't made. The ironic thing is, these "news panels" for the most part have been silent on the "urgent need for entitlement cuts"..... until now. One panel member said we are all "socialists"... from birth. We have the need to be taken care of, he said. Dan Rather said it will require "leadership" to bring us out of it. The lady panelist (British.. what else) said health care entitlements are a major problem here and in Europe as far as debt and deficit go. They talked about raising the Medicare age to 70. They talked about the Medicaid entitlement. They talked about cuts in services. WHY NOW is the Chris Matthews show stressing the importance of "entitlement cuts?"

Dan Rather spoke of a missed opportunity and leadership.... funny, Mitt Romney just spoke on Fox about "a missed opportunity" on the same topic.

Why now does the big issue becomes "entitlements?" Where was this urgency before?

Of course, there must be a punch line down the road.
I think you're wrong about that, Ban. I watch "liberal" MSM and the idea of containing entitlement costs has been on the agenda for some time. However, do you consider starting two unpaid for wars, a huge tax cut, also unpaid for, and a new drug benefit not paid for, as entitlement spending. Those things certainly benefited a disproportionate number of people, just as other so-called entitlement programs disproportionately benefit some people.
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